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2006年11月 1日

New idea for blog

Hi Team,

Sorry, I have been very busy since the weekend with work and lots of other things. Thanks for worrying about me, though! The conference in Chiba was fantastic, and I met some really interesting teachers and got lots of new ideas. Actually, I have decided to make some big changes to this blog. I'm sorry - I know I keep changing my mind, but I hope you will like this idea.

I have to rush off to the dentist now (and get the oil in my bike changed!), but I will come back tomorrow and tell you all about the new plan.

In the meantime, here is my (belated) answer to Blue Dream's question about 'born here' and 'born in here'.
This is actually a very difficult problem, (初心者の方は無視していいと思う!上級の皆さん、だれかがこの説明を日本語に訳してくれると助かります。) I thought about it for a long time, and I think I have an answer. I think (I may be wrong!) that when we say 'come here' and when we say 'come in here', 'here' is actually a different part of speech. (品詞)

When we say 'I was born here' or 'Come here', 'here' is an adverb, but when we say 'put it in here', 'it's cold in here', or 'I was born in here', 'here' is more like a pronoun because it is taking the place of 'this bag' or 'this box'.

If we are talking about a country or an area, we would say 'I was born here', but if we are talking about a particular room or house, we could say 'I was born in here'. In this case, 'here' is taking the place of 'this room' or 'this house', so I don't think it is an adverb in examples like these. If I am right, then it is still okay to say that we don't use 'in' before an adverb. Another way of thinking about it is to say that 'in here' is an adverbial phrase, so we have to think of them as one unit.

Blue Dream, does that answer your question? Anyway, I will be back tomorrow to explain my new idea.

See you soon.

David

PS I am going to the dentist to pick up a gumshield (to protect my teeth when I do dangerous things), so it is not going to be painful.

Comments

Hi David,

You are fine! That's great!
やっと心臓のドキドキがおさまりました。 あ~・・、良かった。(心配性ですみません。。) もう少し気持ちが落ち着いてからまたコメントします・・!

Hi Blue Dream,

マックさんの解釈に "the living room" に "in" は付かないとありましたが、アルクの英辞郎に下記の例がありましたので、紹介させて下さい。

・Lucy, don't leave your dirty socks in the living room. Take them to the laundry room." "OK, Mom."
「ルーシー、汚い靴下を居間に置きっぱなしにしないの!洗濯機のある部屋に持っていきなさい!」「分かったよ」◆母⇒子(靴下)

・Everyone's in the living room. Would you care to join us?
みんなは居間にいるんだ。一緒にどうだい?

・Come on into the living room.
居間においでよ。

・Would you like to join us in the living room?
居間でみんなと一緒にどうだい?

ちょっと勘違いして例文を載せてしまいました。 マックさんの解釈は"the living room" に "in" は付かない、ではなく、"the living room" を "here" に置き換えた場合ですね。 取り消させて下さい。 マックさん、ごめんなさい・・! (例文も意味がなかったです、ごめんなさい。)

Hello. I just got home and found David's new comment. What was surprising is that Tomo posted two entries already! How worried you must have been! Poor Tomo!

今日Tomoさんが載せた分析、鋭いって思ってましたけど、大方Tomoさんの分析通りですよね。特定の場所について言うときにはinを付けることができて(付けなくてもOKで)、国とか領域を指すときはあまり付けないようですね。Tomoさん、すごい!何度も聞いたり詳しく見てみるだけでも、色々分かるんですね~。

Hi Kiko,

ハロウィンパーティー、とっても楽しかったみたいですね! またまたスケールの大きいこと・・! お家を回るときの約束は知りませんでしたよ~。 1日お菓子三昧では、お子さんたちも楽しかったでしょう。 私も参加してみたいです。 ところで、Kikoさんはコスチュームを着れたのかな・・? 

Hi Alex,

やっといつもの私に戻りました。。 alexさん、maybe ではなく、You were right. I was really funny!
今、自分が書いた英文を読み直すと、顔から火が出そうです。 ドキドキしている時は何を言い出すか分からないですね、気を付けないと。。 でも、私がいかに色々な事にすぐドキドキしてしまうか、分かって頂けたでしょうか。。 自分でも本当に嫌になってしまいます。 この心臓のせいで、本当に色々な苦労をさせられています・・。 あ~・・、でも本当に、Davidが無事で良かったです。
"in here" については、今日突然ひらめいたのですよ。 最初に見たときは全然、さっぱり分からなかったのに・・。 でも何故か私はあまり疑問を感じなかったんですよね。。 "in" が要らないということを知らなかった無知さのおかげかもしれません。 でも実はDavidの説明の品詞の違いはあまり理解できていないです。
今日はもう気が抜けてしまって、頭が回りません。 もう少し誰かとお話してホッとしたいですね~・・。 お時間があったら、またお返事下さいませんか・・? Davidの"New idea for blog" も気になりますよね。

PS 説明の翻訳はどなたか(しかも私は上級者ではないので)、Blue Dreamさんあたり、どうでしょう・・? なんて勝手にご指名してはダメでしょうか・・。

Hi David and everyone,

I'm relieved to see renewed blog without trouble thought he seems still to be very busy. And he left us the message that the next update makes us expect something. We want to know a new idea soon!

私もTomoさんの解釈を読んで、ふむふむ、と思っていました。「in here だと別な言葉に置き換えられる」という部分なんてまさにその通り!って感じですね。このブログからどんどん知識を吸収して、それを新しいことに応用しているのだと思います。素晴らしい!
また、Tomoさんの最初のentryを見て思ったのですが、ブログにおいてメッセージを「削除」できる機能があると良いですよね。私もよく入力してから「あっ!」と思う事があり、そんな時はpostした後からでも削除、もしくは編集できればなあ、なんて思います。

Davidの説明は、
come here の here → 副詞であり前置詞はつけられない
come in here の here → (代)名詞である。この場合、in と here は
                                         ひとまとまりの副詞句となる
come in here の here は代名詞なので、前置詞のinをつける事ができるけれど、come here の here は副詞だから前置詞は付かない。

と大まかに理解したのですが・・・あってますか?

Hi Ayako,

Thank you for your comment!
(今日は誰でも捕まえてお話してしまおう・・という気持ちです。)
そうなのですよ、そんな機能があるといいですね~。 最初のコメントの時は、まだドキドキが残っていて、「しまった!何をやっているんだろう」、まさに "Oh, my God!" という感じでした・・!
品詞の説明についてはまた後で参加させて下さい。 実はこの手の話題には弱いです。。

Hi David and everyone,

We found David in here.
What a relief!!

Hi Alex、

Thank you for your morning English lesson.
Looking forward to next one.

Hi Tomo,

心臓のどきどきが、より多くのアドレナリンの排出を促して、
素晴らしいアイデアが浮かんだのですね。お見事!!

Hi ayako,

早速の翻訳ありがとうございます。良く分かりました。
代名詞としたほうが、代名詞と同様や代名詞的より、
すっきり理解できますね。

Hi kiko,

“Trick Or Treat”の声と楽しい喧騒をすぐそこに感じました。
まだまだ心配の種はあるでしょうが、私にはうらやましい限りです。
Have a sound sleep!

Hi iun,

再び、お詫びをさせて下さい。
火に鍋をかけながらでしたので等、言い訳にはなりませんが、
タイプミスをしていました。
Difference between “A” and “B” に訂正お願いいたします。
まさに、Let everyone sweep before his own door. ですよね。
申し訳ありませんでした!

こちらに投稿させていただくのは初めてです.
NHKラジオ徹底トレーニング英会話2006年4月号テキストに,以下のような質問が掲載されていました.
“Does it feel hot in here to you? で in は必要ですか?”
回答では文法的なことには踏み込まず,
“中にいる,ということをはっきり表現するため”
とだけ述べられており,以下のような例文が掲載されていました.

1) Hey,Jack. I'm down here.
 おーい,ジャック.僕はここだよ(下の方にいる)

2) The City looks beautiful from up here.
 ここから見る街は美しいね(上のほうにいる)

ご参考までに…

Hi David and everyone,

How are you ? I'm happy that you came back here.
このブログに戻って来てくれてとしたかったのですが、この場合はhere の前にin をつけてもいいのでしょうか?

Davidの説明で、特定の場所を指す場合のhereにはinをつけることができて、範囲の広い場所を指すhereにはinをつけないと解釈したのですが、どうなんでしょう?今までhereの前にinをつけたことがないので、自信がありません。
日本語にしてみると、
in here(in this house) ←この場所(この家)で
(特定の場所を指しているニュアンスがでますよね?)

here(in this country)←ここで
(これはこの場所でという日本語には置き換えられないですよね)

品詞での説明はうまく説明できませんがこのようなことを言っているのかなと思いました。
ayakoさんの説明で曖昧な品詞の解釈がかなりクリアーになりました。

Hi Tomo,

Don't be worried about mistaking. Everyone can mistake. Especially me, I always mistake many things. And I think that the mistaking help the learners because we try to find where is mistakes and the people who don't know the correct things about them can learn. Let's mistgake a lot and learn each other. If you don't understand what I want to say, please ask me about it. I may mistake in this sentences.
Actually, I'm reading David's books. (今さらなのは重々承知です・・・。そして、なんで今まで読んでいなかったのかという後悔が最初の1ページ目から始まっています。見捨てないでね、David)So I will read the books in English little by little. If I (can)find something good, I will tell you about it.

I can't guess David's new idea. Look forward to hearing that.

Hello David,
I appreciate your answering my question though it was a tough one. Your explanetion cleared up my question. The idea that "here" is pronoun had never occurred to me.
And thank you all, especially Tomo, for giving me helpful comments.
Tomoさんの解釈、ビンゴでしたね。in hereは屋外の場面では聞いたことがなく、部屋の中、車の中、電車の中など必ず室内でしたので、それが理由だろうと何となく思っていましたが、それをきれいに言葉で表現してくださいました。Shall I bring your lunch in here?の文は、元々屋内にいて部屋から部屋への移動なのに、なぜわざわざinをつけなければならないのだろうと疑問でしたが、in the living roomの置き換えであれば、すんなり理解できますね。翻訳のご指名もありがとうございます。上級者ではないですが質問の張本人として責任を持ってと思いましたが、ayakoさんや他の方がすでに訳してくださってますし、前ページのTomoさんの15時7分のコメントと合わせて読めばほぼ完璧ですから、必要ないかなと思いました。

David, thank you again for thinking abont this problem when you were busy.

Hi Can,

Thank you for your comment! 今日はcanさんとAlexさんのコメントを何度も読んで、「大丈夫、ただ忙しいだけかもしれない・・」とドキドキを押さえていました。 本当にホッとしましたね。 でもアドレナリンのおかげでいいこともありました(笑)
canさんのコメントはいつもユーモアたっぷりで楽しいです。 今日は "in here" question に引っかけたユーモアですね。
You have a good sense of humor!
Look forward to your next one.
**********************
Hi m.n,

Thank you for cheering me up!
m.nさんのコメントからはいつも元気な前向きパワーを感じていますよ。 失敗は成功の基ですね、頑張ります・・!
**********************
Hi Blue Dream,

My pleasure! 今まで教えて頂くばかりでしたので、初めてご恩返しが出来て良かったです。 Blue Dreamさんの疑問はいつも私にとって難しいものなので、これが最初で最後かもしれません(笑) また私の疑問にもお付き合い下さいね。 よろしくお願い致します・・!

Hi Blue Dream, Tomo, m,n,

今日は、みなさん、David大捜索の余韻で夜更かしですね。
m.n にpostするところで新着が二通。

Hi m.n、

Are you still awake?
英語、フランス語など、着々の事と思います
この間の映画は、見る時間がありましたか?
またの機会に、二、三本おすすめさせて下さいね。

Davidの新しいアイデアは、今回の様に、Davidが英語で書いて、teamの有志が
翻訳する形ではないでしょうか? どうでしょう?

それでは、 おやすみなさい!

Good morning, David & everyone!

I'm in a good mood today, because we found you were fine, not in trouble. Though, You’ve been very busy. And my heart is going regularly today.(笑) Sorry, I was too upset yesterday. How embarrassing! I have a very weak heart (but not sick). When I have worry about something, it starts pounding and then my worry is getting bigger and bigger. That is my big problem, I know. I want a stronger one!

I wonder what your new idea is.
Look forward to hearing it!

See you soon,

Tomo

hereとin hereは英語を学んでいく上でよいポントになります。文法書と実際に使用される英語の違いでしょうか。今回のDavidの説明にありますが、副詞句と考えると納得できます。
小生もin hereが実際に使用されている文章を見つけました。前の状況がわからないとなぜin hereと表現されたか判り難いので一緒に引用します。

Paul: I’m sorry. It’s late I know, but do you have a room for the night?
Mrs. Pomfrey: Yes, of course, dear. Just for the one, is it?
Paul: Yes, just me.
Mrs. Pomfrey: Not a problem, dear. If you’ll fill this in here. So what brings you out into the wilds?
Paul: I’m heading north. Toward York.
ちなみに作者も英国人でRaymond Brown氏です。

Hello

Tomo, I'm sorry if I sounded as if I was teasing you. I thought your comments were so innocent that I thought you were half-joking. But I guess you were really worried. Good he is back in one piece!

そういえば、初めてコメントされた方が挙げてくださった例文にあるように、here には in のほかに、up や down が付くことも多々ありますよね。解釈は in here とおそらく同じでしょうね。余計に混乱させたらごめんなさい、でも、ついでに覚えるって手もありかと思うので…。there も同じ解釈(少なくとも文法的には)で、in there/up there/down there なんて言いますよね。一つの質問で、色々なことが判明するのはまるでパズルをしているようですね。

Have a good day, everybody!

Hi Alex,

No, please, you were not teasing me. I felt like you were saying "Tomo, It's OK. Take it easy!" In fact, that helped me a lot. Thank you! I'd like you to do next time.

英語は本当にパズルみたいですね、同感です。 今回は私もたくさん新しいことを学びました。 副詞には前置詞は付かないなんて、実は初めて知ったことです・・。 副詞だから・・、副詞句だから・・という話になると、とたんに「???」となってしまいます。 これはもう一冊文法書を買わないとダメかもしれませんね。

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