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2007年3月12日

Learning vocabulary part 1

Hi Everyone,

Did you have a good weekend? I met some 4th year students from Nagoya Women’s University for dinner on Saturday night. This weekend, there is a 謝恩会 after the graduation ceremony, but some of them can’t make it, so we decided to go out for dinner. There were 6 of us – me, Megumi, Masae, Mizuho, Yuko and Mina. They promised to read the blog and make a comment this week, so you might meet them soon. In Japanese universities, it is not unusual for students who major in English to be not very good at speaking, but I think that is starting to change. All of these girls have spent time abroad (England, Australia, Canada …), and it was great to hear them speaking so fluently. We talked about what they had learnt from their time at university, and it was very interesting for me as a teacher to hear what they think! Maybe you can ask them yourselves later this week.

Thanks for all your comments on the topic of divorce and 単身赴任. I’m sure we will come back to this again! Tomo, please don’t worry about hurting my feelings. This blog is interesting because people write what they really think. If I disagree with you, I might argue with you, but I will never be offended.
Lily – thanks for your comment. You are right. These days, people often say, “How weird is that?” instead of the older style “How weird that is!”, but this is a kind of slang, so you have to be careful how you use it.

Anyway, today I want to take you back to the topic of vocabulary learning. I will have a new challenge for you very soon, but you are going to need to do some study first…

Later this week, I want to introduce you to a fantastic website that I have recently started using, but first, I need to explain some background theory. BTW (by the way), today’s topic may be difficult for some people, so 翻訳を宜しく！ When everyone understands this, we will go on to the next part.

Many researchers (研究者)　have studied English texts and speech to find out which words are most important for learners to study. The information they collect is called a ‘corpus’, which is sort of like a data bank. For example, if we collected every English language newspaper from the last 10 years, all of the English language used in those newspapers would be our corpus. Of course, this would be a corpus of ‘newspaper English’. There are also corpuses for general texts, spoken English, academic English, and many other types of language. Nowadays, people use computers to scan the corpuses and count how many times each word is used. The number of times a word is used is called its ‘frequency’. （頻度）
For example, in the sentence above, the frequency count looks like this:

Word Frequency
Is 2 times
The 2 times
A 1 time
Called 1 time
Frequency 1 time
Number 1 time
Of 1 time

This is just 1 sentence, so it is not very interesting, but when we do the same thing for many English sentences and texts, we begin to see which words are the most important words for learners of English to know. Do you follow me so far?

Researchers have found that if you can understand the most frequent 2000 words of English (less than high school level in Japan), you can understand something like 88% of general (not specialized) English. For example, go back and read the first paragraph of this blog entry again. 89% of the words I used are on the list of the most important 1000 words in English. If you add the 1000 – 2000 word list, then 92% of the words are covered. Actually, the number is higher than this because I used some Japanese words and a list of names, which are of course not included. The only English words I used that are not on the list are ‘Japanese’, ‘fluently’, ‘comment’, ‘graduation’ and ‘major’.

This means that if you know the most important 2000 words of English, you can read a lot of things without using a dictionary! Anyway, let’s stop there for today. I will carry on with part II later this week. If you don’t understand, please ask! There are many people here to help you.

See you soon,

David

Comments

PS I have a bit of a sore throat today, and my voice is strange, so I am not going to do a recording.

  •  David
  • 2007年3月12日 15:03

David, you have a cold? Take care! And thank you for your kind words. OK, I'll keep writing what I really think. Yes, it's interesting. I'll write another comment later. Thanks again.

  •  Tomo
  • 2007年3月12日 15:37

Hi David and Everyone,

Here is my translation. If there are some mistakes, please help me!

今回はまた語彙学習についてやりたいと思います。　皆さんに新たなチャレンジを用意してあるのですが、その前に少し説明が要るでしょう。
今週中に、私が最近使用している素晴らしいサイトを紹介したいと思いますが、まず最初にその背景となる理論を説明させて下さい。
多くの研究者が語学学習に役立つ最も重要な単語を探す為に、文章やスピーチを研究しています。　収集された情報は「言語資料」(コーパス)と呼ばれています。　データバンクの一種です。　例えば、過去10年間から全ての英字新聞を集めた場合、その中で使用された英語全てが言語資料となります。　もちろんそれは新聞英語のコーパスです。　一般文章、話し言葉、専門英語など、他にも様々なタイプのコーパスがあります。　近年では、コンピューターを使用して、どの単語が何回使われたのかを数えています。　この回数を「頻度」といいます。　例えば、上の文の頻度は次のようになります。

Is-2回
The-2回
A-1回
Called-1回
Frequency-1回
Number-1回
Of-1回

たった一つの文では何も分かりませんが、同じことをたくさんの文やテキストで行うと、英語学習者にとって最も重要な単語が見えてきます。　ここまではいいですか？
研究者達は、重要頻度の2000語(日本の高校レベル以下）を習得すれば、一般英語(専門分野を除く）の88%を理解することができる、という事を発見しました。　例えば、もう一度このエントリーの最初の段落を読んでみて下さい。　私が使用した単語の89%は重要頻度の1000語リストに載っています。　もう1000語を加えると、92%がカバーされます。　実は、私が少し日本語と人の名前(もちろんリストには含まれていません）を書いたので、その数値はもっと高くなります。　私が使った単語でリストにないものは‘Japanese’、‘fluently’、‘comment’、‘graduation’、‘major’だけです。

これは、もし重要頻度の2000語の知識があれば、辞書を使用しなくても多くのものが読めるようになるという事です！　とりあえず、今日はここまでにします。　今週後半にパートⅡに進みましょう。

I've got to cook dinner!

Tomo

  •  tomo
  • 2007年3月12日 18:10

Wow! Thanks Tomo!

  •  David
  • 2007年3月12日 19:34

Hi David and Everyone,

How are you doing today? Thank you for your new entry, David! Thank you for your great work, Tomo! "Vocabulary"...Whenever I read English books and talk with foreigners, I really think that I need more vocabulary.

m.n & tomo,

Thank you for your comments! I will be 頑張る as much as possible!

むらさき& Lily,

Thanks about 「穴があったらはいりたい」! They are interesting. And I feel that both of them sound lovely. なんだかその様子を想像すると可愛らしい感じがしちゃうのですが。。。変かな？（笑）やっぱり変。。。か。

alex,

I am just wondering where you lives in. It has been snowing since yesterday here my town in Hokkaido. It is like at the middle of winter!　Take care!

Maki

  •  Maki
  • 2007年3月12日 22:06

It's me again....ポストしてから、このsentence変？？と。。。
"Thank you for your great Job!" workよりJobですか？
あと、"It is like the weather in the middle of winter"でしょうか？Please help me!

Maki

  •  Maki
  • 2007年3月12日 22:33

Hi David,

I'm sure that I've heard about this topic before from you. Then I tried to find it(re-read old entries), but I couldn't find it. 確かに聞いたことがあると思ったのですが・・。 I'll try it tomorrow because I'm getting sleepy. I wonder how much vocabulary I have.　I know I don't have a large vocabulary because I always meet many words which I didn't know on this blog. 2000語ってどのくらいなのでしょう？　たくさん知らない単語がありそうです。。 It's been a long time since we've talked about this kind of topic, learning English last time.
David, you were right. 久しぶりにずっと前のブログを読み直して思いました。　英語学習のことだけを話していた時より、例え英語ばっかりになっても、色んな事を話す方がずっと楽しくなりました。(最初は怖気づいてしまったけど(笑））　でももちろん、久しぶりの“先生”のお話も楽しみにしています。　私達も久しぶりに生徒ですね～＾＾

Hi Maki,
う～ん・・、これは全く根拠も自信もないから１意見として聞き流してください。　私は‘work’よりも‘job’を選ぶかな～、何となく。 もうひとつの文は、自分でも言ったことがないからよく分からないけど、 ‘at’ より ‘in’ の方を選ぶかな・・。 But I'm not sure, so don't trust me!(笑）

Goodnight,

Tomo

  •  tomo
  • 2007年3月12日 23:50

Hi, David and everyone;
I think the idea of a “corpus” is very wonderful. Thank you Tomo! I understand it very well.
I'm sure it will make your language study very efficient ant easier. Only 2,000 words? Great!
But now I have a question. Give, up, on, put and off ,for example, are all very simple words, but what if some of them get together and become a phrase? If you know those words individually, it doesn’t necessarily mean you understand the meaning of the phrase like “Give up on” and “put off”. Native speakers always use these kinds of phrases composed of very simple words instead of rather “big words”.
If a corpus helps this, I would be happier.

Hi, Lily;
Thank you for giving me another phrase for 「穴～」. ちっちゃくまるまって隠れちゃうって感じでしょうか。いいですねぇ、これ。私には絶対必要、こういう表現。いろいろ取り揃えておかないと。もう穴だらけ？！
この間も、電車で座ってウトウトしていたら、目の前に足のギブス発見！あわてて席を譲ったら、なんとゴルフクラブがぐるぐる巻きに包装されていただけでした。紛らわしい！足みたいな形だったし～。っていうか、私が寝ぼけていただけですけど(；一_一)。穴があったら入りたい感じで、また座って寝たふりしてしまいましたとさ。（余計恥ずかしい．．．。）

Hi, Maki;
How embarrassing! と、ちっちゃくなってコソコソしてそうなところが、妙にかわいですよね。 私はみっともないだけでしたけど↑。

  •  むらさき
  • 2007年3月12日 23:57

Hi David,

Thank you for your comments on my last entry.
It was a bit embarrassing, but still good for my study.


About the topic, I've heard similar story.
Daily conversation requires less vocabulary than people think.
It reminds me the conversation I had with one of my classmates.
We were talking about the difficulty to speak in a class. She said that she cannot make a comment or a question because she is too afraid to make a mistake in English. And I felt exactly same way.
But we know some people speak up even though their English is not perfect. It tends to that African and Latin people don't hesitate to speak out.
On the other hand, Asian people seem to concern about making mistakes over to express their ideas or feelings.
(The classmate I was talking with is from Indonesia.)
However, recently SNS and personal HP have increased rapidly. It shows that many Japanese seek a place to express or (even)exposure themselves.
So I think most of us need more guts rather than vocabulary!!

I better go to bed now so that I can put my idea into action in tomorrow's morning class!

Ciao,
Kay

  •  Kay
  • 2007年3月13日 08:46

Hi David and Everyone,
“vocabulary” … it reminds me of “カップラリン” :-D
(If you have no idea and really want to know what I’m talking about, see the November 20 entry ;-)
Joking aside … that’s the “コーパス” everybody was talking about these days! (Am I far behind??) That sounds interesting. I’m looking forward to your next entry!

Maki
Yes, I think those “穴” expressions sound cute too :-)
> "Thank you for your great job!"
In this case, I would use “job” rather than “work” too. I can’t say “work” is wrong, though. Job and work, it’s difficult for me to decide which to use sometimes.

Murasaki
> もう穴だらけ？！
LOL! You gave your seat to a golf club?? You are so sweet … and funny! (((hug)))

Kay
You are right! I’ve seen many English learners who spoke pretty fluently with only simple words and phrases. I think we need to have more courage AND learn how to use these simple words.

Many Japanese try hard to translate their ideas into English when they can express them with surprisingly simple phrases. I heard somewhere that if you are good at Japanese (your first language), you are likely to be good at English too and that you can apply your over all “language ability” to any language. Come to think of it, I remember looking up difficult Japanese words and phrases in the Japanese dictionary or answering vocabulary quizzes in elementary school. I still remember I was surprised how difficult it is to explain them in Japanese and learned the basics of flexible thinking to convey the meaning in different ways. If you can express your ideas clearly in simple Japanese, you can do that in English too. I also find that some people are using some words and phrases (in Japanese) vaguely, and when asked, they can’t explain what they really mean. No wonder they can’t translate it into another language!
In case you are wondering, all of the above is also a reminder to myself! ;-)

Well, enough rambling for now …
Talk to you later :-)

  •  Lily
  • 2007年3月13日 12:48

Lily～! Don't remind me, forget it, pleeeeease!(笑)
By the way, I loved your idea! About "If you can express your ideas clearly in simple Japanese, you can do that in English too." Expressing myself well in English with only simple words and phrases, that is what I want to do.　できれば難しい単語はあんまり覚えたくないというのが本音だけど(笑）　だってなかなか覚えられない～・・。

Davidが用意している"new challenge" って何だろう・・？　知るのがちょっと怖い私です。。

Tomo

PS (((hug)))　これはハグのマーク？

  •  tomo
  • 2007年3月13日 13:34

Hi Team,

I had to go into Nagoya today, and I went to the station ........ by scooter! It was not a real bike, but it felt good to be back on 2 wheels! Murasaki - good point about phrasal verbs (put on, give up etc.) The list doesn't cover those. Kay - good point about needing guts more than vocabulary! I think I will use that expression in class! Tomo - thanks again for the wonderful translation - it seems like most people understand. BTW, you said 'I heard this from you before'. Many Japanese people say this, but this is not how we say it in English. In English, we don't use 'I heard' with 'from you'. You can say, 'I heard from him' or 'I heard from a friend', but if the person is 'you', we just say 'You told me that already'. That is today's one-point lesson! Have a great evening.

  •  David
  • 2007年3月13日 18:37

Hi David,
バイク復活おめでとうございます!　スクーターもバイクの仲間ですよ～。　久しぶりに風を切って走ったのですね。　寒さも忘れる感じでしたか・・?
And thank you for the one-point lesson! 'You told me that already.', I got it! それから、'Have a great evening.' なんて言い方もできるんですね。 また１つ覚えました＾＾

Hi Everyone,
About my translation, I know most of you can read David's entry easily, so it's just my practice and challenge. Actually, my "English brain" gets very tired after trying this because I don't usually translate into good Japanese when I read the blog. Translation is very difficult, but as David said, it's good practice for me(us).（本当の事を言うと、お願いされると弱い私です。。(笑)）　でも決してスラスラ読んでるわけではなく、訳をポストした後も「あってるかな・・」とドキドキしています。　なので、間違っている時、勘違いしている時、ニュアンスがちょっと違う時、などなど遠慮なく教えて下さい。　お願いします！

Have a great evening.

Tomo

  •  tomo
  • 2007年3月13日 19:47

Hi David,
久しぶりのバイク（スクーター）、良かったですね～！鎖骨はまだ痛みますか？春の訪れとともに、バイク（リアルバイク？）も楽しめるようになりますね！

Hi むらさき
私もいつも穴だらけです（笑）ボコボコで憶えていないくらい。。。同じような経験があります・・・が、はっきり意識がある時です。。。寝ぼけてならかわいい....。:-)

Tomo & Lily
Thank you for your advice! After posting, I always feel....あ～間違った～？大丈夫？と不安になります。
As Tomo said, I also love your idea, Lily! "If you can express your idea~." It is sometimes difficult for me to express my idea clearly even in simple Japanese. 説明しようとすると、まわりくどくなったり。。。Englishでは、難しい単語は記憶力が....↓(泣)

Tomo
I think that you express your idea simply and well both in English and in Japanese. And your translation was great! Thanks again!

Maki

  •  Maki
  • 2007年3月13日 22:36

Hi, David;
Thank you for your comment. Yes, on second thought I suppose it’s to be expected that it doesn’t cover phrases.
ちょっと虫が良すぎました。（That’s asking too much.）ペコリ。Anyway, I’m looking forward to Words 2,000!

Hi,Tomo;
Thank you again for the translation. Even for those who can read it without much difficulty, translating it is another thing, I suppose.
読んで意味はわかっても、実際に日本語に訳して、きちんとした文章に書いてみるのはかなり大変なことだと思います。As Lily said, 日本語も相当うまくないとちゃんと筋の通った自然な文章にならないです。すごいです。

Hi, Maki;
あら－、本当ですか？いくらなんでもゴルフクラブに席を譲った人はいないと思いましたけど、上には上があるものですね。よかった～！な～んて言ったりして．．．。あ～あ、言っちゃった、言っちゃた。

  •  むらさき
  • 2007年3月13日 23:12

Hi David and Everyone,

Good morning! How are you? こちらは今日もいい天気です。(風は強いけど）　早く春が来ないかな～。。

Maki, むらさき, ありがとう！　そんな風に言ってもらえると、頑張った甲斐があります。　実はやり始めてからポストするまでに２時間（笑）　もっとスラスラ出来るといいんだけど。。
ゴルフクラブに席を譲る話だけど（笑）、寝ぼけてても、間違いでも、ギブスを見てあわてて席を譲ろうとする気持ちがエライ！　そういう話を聞くと、今の日本もすてたもんじゃないなーと嬉しくなります＾＾
私にも電車での失敗談があります。（通学してる時）　座れなくて立っていたんだけど、ちゃんとつかまってなくて、電車の揺れに耐えられず、後ろ向きにおっとっとっとっと・・・・・・・とよろけていき、後ろの席に座っていたおじさんの膝の上にストン、と着席してしまったことがあります。。　あの時は本当に消えたかったわ・・（笑）

Tomo

PS 英語脳がお疲れの人は日本語でもいいからおしゃべりしませんか～・・？

  •  tomo
  • 2007年3月14日 08:53

Hi Tomo,
私はいつも英語脳がうまく働きません・・＾＾
英語で書かれたのをみればわかるのに、いざ自分で書こうと思うとまったく出て来ない！
コメントをし始めるだいぶ前からこのブログを読んでたんだけど、やっぱりコメントする方がおもしろいし、英語をしゃべりたいって意欲がわいてくる！みんなのコメントもとても楽しいし。
つい最近友だちが留学したのだけど、私も負けないぞ～と闘志を燃やしているところ。私だって！日本で上達するぞと意気込んでます。
Tomoも自分で勉強してるんですよね。うぅぅ、すごいです。

Sora

  •  Sora
  • 2007年3月14日 11:26

Hi Sora,

Thanks for your comment! I understand your feelings exactly, Sora. You know what? My first English comment was only 2 sentences. And it took me so much time. 　たった2つの文を書くのに何十分もかかり、しかも両方とも間違っていたの（笑）　それは去年の5月のことです。　このブログに出会ったのは、ちょうど英語日記に挫折した頃でした。（数ある挫折の中のひとつね（笑））　初めはコメントを書くこと自体にドキドキしていたし、自分の英語をネット上に載せるなんてとっても恥ずかしかったんだよ。　でもいつだったかな・・。　「毎回、必ずDavidに英語でコメントを書こう！」って心に決めて、それだけは続けてきたの。（ちょっとサボった時もあったけど（笑））　私はいつもコメントをする、というよりメールをしているような気持ちで書いているから、だから1人で日記を書くよりずっと楽しかったし、それが続けてこれた秘訣かも。　でも絶対全部英語で書こう！なんて肩に力を入れちゃうと、英語が出てこなくて苦しくなっちゃうから、あまり頑張り過ぎないように頑張る！（笑）　でも私の英語は間違いなく進歩したでしょ・・？　だからSoraの英語も同じだよ。　その「闘志」が大事だよね。　でもいっぺんに燃え尽きてしまわないように、細ーく長ーくね(＾_-)-☆　私も気持ちの波のサーフィンを学んでいるところです。　一緒に頑張ろうね＾＾

Tomo

  •  tomo
  • 2007年3月14日 12:34

Hi everyone,
It's fine today! Clear blue sky, no-wind and shining sun… but it's so cold. I can't wait for spring!
Recently I read Lily's comment "I read some of the early entries at random", I also read this blog over again at random. Yeah, it's interesting for me too. I feel it's like the same as reading David's book completely.
About this topic 'corpus', now I remember that David wrote about this before. But it was not specific. (Tomo, you said 確かに聞いた事があると思ったのですが・・・. Yes! I think you are right.) Probably is it the topic on October 4? Davidのblogを読み返していて、偶然見つけました。ワードリストの話も面白かったので、今回のcorpusも楽しみです。I'm looking forward to next entry!

  •  ayako
  • 2007年3月14日 12:49

Hi Tomo,
うん！わりと最初のほうからこのブログ読んでるんだけど、Tomoの英語すごく上手になってるのがわかるよ。（私が言うのもおこがましいんだけど＾＾；）
確かに、私のボッと出た闘志はすぐに燃え尽きる。
過去に何度も経験してるよ・・あれもこれもと手を出して、結局続けてないんだよね。それで、これは上達の方法ではないんだと思いこんで、また違うモノに手を出す、の繰り返し。けど、最近ようやく自分のペースで続けることが大事だなと気づいたよ。それに近道なんてないし、自分にあった続け方を見つけるのが大事なんだね。上手な人はそれだけ努力してるからできるんだよね。でも、Tomoの'数ある挫折のひとつ'を聞けて少し安心した＾＾なんて・・
Thank you for your advice!You make me feel relaxing.As Kay said,I need more guts to post my English comment,though I make a lot mistakes.(though の使い方あってる？）
Anyway,Tomo,thank you so much!!

Sora

  •  Sora
  • 2007年3月14日 14:30

Hi Ayako,
You found it? Yes, it's on the October 4th entry! You are right, re-reading the blog is very interesting. Re-reading your own comments is kind of embarrassing, though.(笑)

Hi Sora,
though の使い方は私もまだ勉強中なんだけど、ayakoに書いた 'though' は「自分のコメントを読み直すのはちょっと恥ずかしいけどね」 みたいなニュアンスを出したくて後ろに持ってきました。　でもそのニュアンスがちゃんと出てるのかどうかは実はよく分かってないの(笑)　'though' って最初に来たり、文と文の真ん中に来たり、最後に来たり、「，」があったりなかったりで、ちょっとずつニュアンスが違うような気がするんだけど、でもまだちゃん説明できるほど分かってないのです。　さっき調べて初めて知ったんだけど、'though' って副詞の時と接続詞の時があるみたい。(この手の話は苦手だから聞かないで～(笑））　Soraが出したかったニュアンスが「たとえいっぱい間違えても / いっぱい間違うけれども」みたいな感じだったら、私はあってると思うんだけど、どうだろう・・？　みんなに聞いてみようか。

Team, can someone help us?

Tomo

  •  tomo
  • 2007年3月14日 18:48

Hi Tomo,
私もはじめてつかってみたんだけど、実際自分で文をつくってみると、ぜんぜんわかってないってことが、わかった。読むのはなんとなくわかっている（つもり）んだけど。だから勘で書いたよ。
Gutsで！

Hi everyone,
Please help us!

Sora

  •  Sora
  • 2007年3月14日 21:17

Hi, Sora, Tomo

私はこう思いました。
Soraのthoughは、きっとあっていると思いますが、私だったらthoughの意味をはっきりさせるために、前にeven をつけて書きます。

Tomoの　,thoughは、私もTomoと同じように使っています。私は正しいと思います。

短いけれど、これで・・・

  •  panda
  • 2007年3月14日 21:35

Hi David & Everyone,
How are you doing? Spring has gone away from here....I am missing the warm weather!

むらさき；
うぅぅぅ。。。You pushed me into a deeeep hole.(笑)Actually, I don't know what it was....Maybe a golf bag, a sport bag and so on. I stood up quickly! And...いきなり立ったので、また座る事ができず。。。I curled into a ball and hid.できればよかったな。。。

Tomo;
Thank you for your kind comment! でも。。。ね（笑）
I've heard about the same situation as yours. It was not unusual(?), I guess. :-)

Panda;
How are you doing? Busy days? Please drop in a line when you get a time!

Maki

  •  Maki
  • 2007年3月14日 21:56

Panda!
You posted while I was writing my commnet. Glad to hear from you!

I agree with you about "though".　私もそのように使っています。I am not 100% sure, though.

Maki

  •  Maki
  • 2007年3月14日 22:01

Hello all,
This is the first time I have written a comment.
Im Meg and as he told you, Im a 4th year student at NWU.(名古屋女子大学)

I was surprised to find out that there are so many people who like to study English with Davie and also like him.lol

This is a very interesting point that you bring up. I mean the point about the 2000 basic words.

What I find difficult is not vocabulary so much, but idioms and collocations. For example, I dont know how to say things naturaly like when at the ATM I would say I need to withdraw but it is natural to say withdraw money or get money out. That is what I learned while I was in Australia.

What do you think of my opinion guys?


PS
If you want to know about Davie, ask me anything! lol

Actually he is......................

  •  Meg
  • 2007年3月14日 22:48

Hi, Tomo, Maki;
I have the same experience as you, Tomo. But I also have the opposite experience; a BIG おばさんsuddenly fell on my nose!! 痛～～！I almost got my nose broken.(>_Hi, Tomo, Maki;
I have the same experience as you, Tomo. But I also have the opposite experience; a BIG おばさんsuddenly fell on my nose!! 痛～～！I almost got my nose broken.(>_ 通学・通勤途中の電車内の“穴”は数々あってきりがありませんので、この辺で。ヤレヤレ．．．。

Hi, Sora, Tomo, Panda (long time no see!) and Maki and who else?
About “though”, I think like this;

You can use “though”, and “although”, or　”even though” at the beginning of a clause.
For example:
“Even though I didn't have much time, I tried to make a comment.”
（文頭に来るときは強調のEvenがつくことが多い気がします。）
You can change the order of the two clauses and say:
“I tried to make a comment, (even) though I didn't have much time.”

In these examples, though means ”despite the fact that”.

You can also put “though” at the end of a clause.
For example:
“I still find English hard to understand. I can understand more than last year, though.”

When placed at the end of a sentence like this, though means 'however'.

But I’m not 100% sure….

  •  むらさき
  • 2007年3月14日 23:15

Hi panda and Maki,
Thank you!あってたんですね。一安心。なるほど、evenをつけると私が言いたかった文になります。まだ使いこなすには時間かかりそうだけど、たくさん使ってみてニュアンスをつかんでいくね。

Sora

  •  Sora
  • 2007年3月14日 23:33

Hi むらさき
コメントをポストしたら、むらさきのコメントがあった！I have to go to bed now.明日、しっかり読むね。Thank you!
Good night.

Sora

  •  Sora
  • 2007年3月14日 23:40

Hi tomo,
Your sister is a kindergarten teacher? Wow, great, but she might have a heavy job. Thank you for telling me how to treat kids. Kids are exactly honest. That’s why they are sometimes like scary. 痛いとこついてくるんだもん（笑）.
BTW, “普通” is the most difficult. What do you think? 普通な夫婦？？？　How do you explain about it? “普通” is only for you, but “special” for others, especially for me!
So, you did a big job about translation again, huh? Thank you! I remember about “かっぷらりん”. “かっぷらりん” is tomo…lol I’m kidding. Anyway, your English level went up quite early. In the beginning of this blog, you were very hesitated to make comments in English. I don’t have enough English skill to talk about it though. I’ve still doubt you’ve lived in another countly(lol).

Hi Lily,
How are you? Thank you for telling me a nice expression. It’s interesting. Have you ever said the expression?

Hi Kay,
I also thought you are a man because of your name. But it’s a nice name!

Hi むらさき,
It’s so funny. The golf bag looked like a leg with gypsum? You look like me.
私は、今日、コピーをしていて、用紙が無くなって、補給したのにずっとエラーが出ていて、おかしいなーと思ったら、コピー用紙を入れる場所を間違ってました。右の空白に入れなきゃいけないのに、普通に左に入れて、悩んでおりました。私は、起きてたのに・・・。
電車に乗ってて、一つ前の駅で降りちゃった時って、違う車両に移るしかないですよね？
そんな時も、使えるフレーズですね。（こういう経験ありますよね？）

Hi Sora,
I’m sure sometimes the brain for English just doesn’t work, other times work. I want to trust it. If you push yourself too much, your real skill doesn’t come out. Take it easy.
私も、pandaと同じ意見で、「～だけれども=even though」とします。でも、「even」は強調になると辞書にありました。Can you help us?

Hi meg,
You were one of David’s student? You are so lucky! What kinds of the person is David? I know he is really nice person! But I’ve never seen him.

Hi David,
けがの方は、かなり回復してきてるようですね！よかったー。
Look forward to new entry.

  •  m.n
  • 2007年3月15日 00:11

Hi, Meg;
Thank you for joining us!
これを機に、是非、是非メンバーになりませんか？入会金、年会費無料、入会資格なし。お得ですよ！
Australiaにいらしたのですね。良いですね。私は１度だけ行ったことがありますが、１８ドル80（よりによって？）が全然聞き取れなくて超あせりました。
そう、そう、collocationsって言うのですね。 get money outというような言い方が自然にできるようになりたいです。
全部日本語ですみません。もう英語脳が働かん！

Hi,m.n;
わーい！ドジ子がたくさんいてうれしいです！ある、ある！日常茶飯事！
It's really nice to know I'm not the only one!!

  •  むらさき
  • 2007年3月15日 00:44

Hi, everyone.
How are you doing?
I always look for an effective way of memorizing　English words. ‘corpus’ sounds good one. So I'm really looking forward to the part two!

Hi, Meg.
Thank you for joinning us. Could you please write comments occasionally and help us?

  •  tea
  • 2007年3月15日 01:50

Hi Team,
Thank you for your help! Now I'm starting to understand it. You guys are always a big help.
むらさき, “despite the fact that” and “however”, that makes sense!
PandaもMakiもm.nもありがとね＾＾ It helped us a lot!

Hi m.n,
About my sister, I also thought that her job was hard. But she looked very happy because that was her dream from when she was a child. She said that she couldn't enjoy her job for the first year because she didn't know how to teach and treat children well. But from the second year, she really enjoyed it.
And thanks for your kind words again. You know what? You are special, too;-)

Hi Meg,
Thank you for joining us! Good point about idioms and collocations, I agree with you. I need a good vocabulary but also to learn about idioms and collocations.
By the way, I'd love to know after this “Actually he is...” Can you tell us about him? Anything is fine!
Thanks again for your comment.

Tomo

  •  tomo
  • 2007年3月15日 09:13

Hi Team,

I am going to be busy today, but I will do another entry tomorrow. I will show you how to solve problems like Meg's question about the difference between 'withdraw' and 'get money out', and I will also show you how you can find out more about how collocations and how to use new words.

Tomo, when Meg said, "actually, he is ...", I think the final word was probably 'lovely'. Or something like that.

See you later.

  •  David
  • 2007年3月15日 12:23

Hi David,

The final word was 'lovely'?(笑） Yes, you are lovely, honest, interesting, friendly, kind, adventurous, full of energy, a wonderful teacher with passion and a gentleman! (Am I right, Meg?＾＾)
By the way, is Meg your ex-student? Did you teach her(and the other girls) when you worked at Nagoya Women’s University?(I guess so.) Her English is very good. You are lucky to have such a nice student, and she is also very lucky to have you as a teacher!

Look forward to your entry.(and surprise comment!)

See you soon,

Tomo

  •  tomo
  • 2007年3月15日 13:48

Hi, Maki

気にかけてくれてありがとう！私は引越しの準備で大忙しですが、今のところはコメントを読んで、考えたり笑ったりする時間がとれています。3月終わりから、4月半ばまではパソコン使えないおそれありです・・・。


Hi,Tomo

単身赴任についての私へのコメントありがとう！それを読んで、なぜか、涙ぐんでしまった私・・・。あと10年ある！なんとか一緒にいられる方法を考えます！


Hi,むらさき

（知っているかもしれませんが）私もかなりドジ子ですよ！体験談はまたいつか・・・

  •  panda
  • 2007年3月15日 21:21

Hi Panda,
引越し準備で忙しくしていたのですね。3月のこんな時期になって寒い毎日、体調には気をつけてね！いつでもコメント待ってるよん！（＾＾）ｖ

Hi むらさき
Thank you for the explanation about "though"! いつもわかりやすい説明ありがとう！

Hi Meg,
Nice to meet(?) you! You have a good point. I need to learn idioms and collocations for speaking English naturally, I agree with you.

Hi David,
I am looking forward to your new entry!

Maki

  •  Maki
  • 2007年3月15日 22:50

Hi, panda;
やっ・・・ぱり！！（きっぱり！）

  •  むらさき
  • 2007年3月16日 00:09

Welcome, Meg!
“Actually, he is …” ‘lovely’? Oh, sure, David! *rolls her eyes* ;-)
Feel free to stick around and pick on David, Meg!

Speaking of collocation, I only started using the collocation dictionary a few years ago but it’s now a must for me especially when I have to do some formal writing. It also helps me learn natural English.

Sora
> つい最近友だちが留学したのだけど、私も負けないぞ～と闘志を燃やしているところ。
That’s the spirit, Sora!

Murasaki, Maki, Tomo, m.n.
Everybody has some funny on-the-train incidents, huh? Of course I have missed my stop or got off at the wrong station etc. etc. :-)

Panda
Good to hear from you. You seem pretty busy. And you might lose access to the Internet for a while? Noooo! Please keep in touch! I need Purple Panda! (Doesn’t that sound like a comedy duo? :-)

Tomo
Can I hug you too? (((tomo))) ← hugging Tomo :-)

  •  Lily
  • 2007年3月16日 12:47

Lily, sure! Give me a big hug;-)
By the way, I have another question for you. What does this “*rolls her eyes*” mean?

Panda, 赤ちゃん連れの引越しは大変だけど頑張ってね！　みんな待ってるから必ず戻ってきてね～*(＾＾)*

  •  Tomo
  • 2007年3月16日 13:13

Tomo
> *rolls her eyes*
In English blogs and forums, I often see people express their emotions and actions by enclosing them in asterisks. I love it. In this case, it means she (= Lily) is rolling her eyes. 「lovelyだろうって？ハイ、ハイ、そうでしょーとも」みたいな。 I just couldn’t resist doing it! ;-)

  •  Lily
  • 2007年3月16日 15:20

Lily, thanks! I've seen it for the first time. That's interesting and funny! I love that about you;-)

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