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2007年4月18日

Flat sharing

Hi Team,

It looks like we have sorted out some of our blog problems. I’m sure no one wants to see nasty or inappropriate comments, so I guess we will have to be patient sometimes. Actually, if my mother realizes I couldn’t translate what she wrote, you might see some nasty and inappropriate comments from her!
I had a busy day today. This morning, I went to meet the people from Seto Kokusai Centre to discuss the final arrangements for Sunday. I’m really excited about meeting Tomo. Tomo – I hope you are not too shy to introduce yourself! This afternoon, I had planned to take some students for a walk in 海上の森(かいしょのもり)which is a beautiful forest very close to our campus. I go running there every morning, and I always think it is a shame that more students don’t know about it. Four students came with me today – Yuko, Hitomi, Kento and Makoto. Hitomi has lived in Australia and England, and Kento lived in Wales for 4 years! I was very surprised to hear that. Anyway, my topic for today comes from talking to Kento and Makoto.

Kento and Makoto both come from Mie, but Kento lives by himself in Seto, and Makoto travels from his hometown every day. I asked Makoto why he doesn’t move to Seto, and he said, “Because it’s too expensive to live by myself”. In my country (and America, NZ, Australia, Canada etc.), it is very common for people to share an apartment or a house because it is cheaper than living by yourself. In Japan, people don’t do this very often, but I think it is a shame. Living with other people in university was a fantastic experience for me. We used to fight a lot, but we had a lot of fun too. I think it was much better than living with my parents. In my 2nd year of university, I lived with 3 other guys (I will try to introduce you to one of them on this blog. He is a high school principal in England now), and in my 3rd year, I shared a house with 2 girls and 2 guys. One of the girls had a boyfriend who was always staying with us. They were very strange - I think in Japanese, you would call them バッカプル。They always took a bath together, and they used to write, “I love you” in the steam on the mirror! It used to really annoy the rest of us. Actually, they got married after we graduated, but I heard they got divorced not long after that.
Anyway, my topic for today is this – why don’t young Japanese people share houses and flats? I know it is not common in this culture, but I don’t really understand why. I would like to hear your ideas.

I’m going home for dinner now.

See you soon,

David

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Comments

Hi,David.

I think..... When somebody lease contract,most of the owner of the leasehold property doesn`t like a sharering.

In days of old,blood relation was the most important to live in same place and they didn`t need a individualism.
Those customs seem to remain still now.

Therefore, most of young Japanese people doesn`t want to share.
And if they want it , they can`t seem to do it.

Hi David,

Don't worry, I'll be there to challenge a new thing and change myself and of course to have fun!(心臓はドキドキしちゃうけど、そんなに shy ではないです^^) I know you and you know me. Of course you don't know my face, but we've talked about a lot of thing on this blog. As I said before, it feels like I have known you for a long time. I'll enjoy everything on that day. 4 more days until the event.. I can't wait!

About the topic, I think that sharing houses and flats has plus points and minus points. Maybe for Japanese people, the minus points are huge. And like you said, it is not common in Japan. I don't understand why you can live with other people you don't know very well. For example, ルームメイトを募集して一緒に住む・・というのは考えられないです。 Maybe I can live with my close friends, but I can't do that with people I don't know very well. Is this because we have a narrow circle? I don't know.. I think that Japanese people want to relax and don't want to bother with any troubles when they are at home, like having fights, seeing annoying people.. 日本人は主張するのが得意じゃないので、遠慮したり、気を使ったりするのが疲れてしまうんだと思います。

See you soon,

Tomo

David and Everyone,
Just like David said on the last thread, I found the rents in Canada were about as expensive as in Japan. But I thought it’s great that you can easily find an affordable place by renting a room in a house or sharing an apartment. I never shared an apartment myself but I didn’t mind renting a room in a house. But I don’t think I would ever do that in Japan. I also saw a lot of young Japanese people share apartments and houses there. And I don’t think they will ever do that in Japan either. There probably are some cultural aspects to it, but I thought about the reason why Japanese don’t do that from a practical point of view.

In old Japanese novels, young people often live in boarding houses. People don’t do that anymore, do they? I guess a major reason is that there aren’t many large houses anymore especially in urban areas where most young people look for a place. Rents might be about the same as other Western countries but buying a house or condo costs a lot. It’s really hard to buy a large house with extra rooms to rent out in Japan. Apartments are generally smaller too. And even large ones don’t have many “bedrooms” like Western ones and most rooms are just separated by sliding doors. They are not suitable for sharing with someone else unless you are really close. Those few exceptions with multiple bedrooms are naturally high-end condos poor young people can’t afford at all.

Hi all,
I don't want to share houses and flats because it's hard for me to accept the defferent life style. I need the time for alone. And if the personarity of roomates are the type I don't like, I would feel stress. This is my opinion that I don't want to share houses and flats.
And the reason why Japanese people don't share them is that we are not good expressing our own feeling, so we might have patient and get too much stress, I guess. What do you think of my idea? Let you know your ideas!!!

Hi all,
I don't want to share houses and flats because it's hard for me to accept the defferent life style. I need the time for alone. And if the personarity of roomates are the type I don't like, I would feel stress. This is my opinion that I don't want to share houses and flats.
And the reason why Japanese people don't share them is that we are not good expressing our own feeling, so we might have patient and get too much stress, I guess. What do you think of my idea? Let you know your ideas!!!

Hi, Tomo;
銃についてですが、数日間のチェック期間(犯罪歴等の)などの制限は多少あるものの、基本的に自由に買うことができるようです。地域によっては、スーパーでも売っている!そうです。(私は見たことはありません。)
今までに知り合いや、友達のアメリカ人に聞いた範囲では、持っている人も、買ったことがある人もいませんでしたので、みんなが持っているわけではないようですが、持っている人は何丁もズラ~ッと持っていたりするらしく、武器の所有は、合衆国憲法に定められた基本的人権だそうです。

Hi, iun;
おっしゃる通りだと思います。詳しくは知らないのですが、ドルイドは宗教儀式を行う聖職者で、哲学、法律、天文学、医学などの知識も持ち、同時に詩人でもあり、予言なども行ったそうです。

As for the topic, I’ve never shared an apartment or house, because I’m a Tokyoite and went to university in Tokyo. The university has dormitory houses and students who lived there and shared a room seemed to have a valuable friendship, which was something outsiders can never experience.
As David mentioned, I think living with other people in university was a fantastic experience.
A friend of mine shared a house with two other students near the campus. They had their own room and shared a kitchen and a bathroom. I used to stay with them and it was sooo fun.
Now I think it’s something only younger people can enjoy only once in your lifetime. I don’t want to do it now (once you start working), but I should’ve done that in university!

Murasaki,
I agree. Apartment/house sharing would be a great experience for young people. I'm too old for that ;-) But if I had been ten years younger, I would've done that too.

Hi むらさき,

Thanks for answering my question! See? You know a lot of things, at least more than I do;-)
スーパーでも売ってるの?! I can't believe that! 野菜じゃないんだからねぇ・・。 基本的人権か~。。 でもみんながみんな持ってる訳じゃないと聞いて安心しました。 Thanks!

むらさきの言う通り、日本には学生寮とか、看護婦さんの卵の寮とか、いろんな寮がありますね。 若い頃に同じ目的を持つ人と一緒に住んだりするのは、きっと楽しい経験になるのかな。 m.nと同じで私も一人の時間が欲しいタイプなので、今の自分で考えると無理だけど、若いうちなら出来るかもしれません。

Hi all

Thank you, Tomo, m.n, Lily. Thank you to Murasai and Pink NY for your comments, too. Nice to meet you Pink NY. To answer your question, yes, I am going back to school in the US (in MA, right next to you!) soon. Things have settled a bit. I am sick and tired of paperwork… It’s never fun!

I have several bad experiences in sharing an apartment while I was a student in the US. I’m actually going to share an apartment this time, too. Otherwise, I can’t afford! One big lesson: Never live with your close friends, UNLESS your lifestyles and the level of cleanliness are about the same! I lived with my best friend once along with other roommates. We fell out soon after we began living together.

I am the type who doesn’t want to leave the dishes in the sink and wants to set up minimum rules to go by to keep the house clean so everybody can live pleasantly and happily, such as taking turns to vacuum the public space once a week and put out the garbage on scheduled days. But my friend never understood why we had to “establish” such rules. Of course, she would leave the dishes in the sink and wouldn’t mind NOT vacuuming the house once a week. (FYI, there were 3 cats living with us!) I can go on and on … so I should stop around here.

But living with people you don’t know isn’t that hard, I guess. The real hard part is to accept roommates’ lifestyles, customs, and habits and to learn how to speak up when something is annoying. You want to relax, have some privacy and quiet moments, and sleep well, but you don’t want anything frustrating in your apartment. You do learn a lot from living with other people. I heard several years ago that there were 2 bedroom apartments being built in the Tokyo area to be shared mostly by students. But most apartments are not built to be shared.

Why we don’t do that in Japan, I guess, has a lot to do with the topic that was discussed a few entries ago - why Japanese don’t speak to strangers (people we don’t know personally). I think we don’t want to get into somebody’s privacy. I don’t think it’s what they call “individualism” but it’s something that’s forbidden or should be left unrevealed as courtesy, especially when it’s about someone you don’t know.

Hello, David!
I'm Yuki, a student of Nanzan Seto Campas.
And I know about Yuko well☆
I wanted to join to the walking in 海上の森. But I had a rectuer. Next time, please invite me!!!

Anyway, in Japan, they cared about life styl of other people, if they live together. But thesedays some of my friends are living with somebody.

So, I think it is different from each people, especially young people.

Hi Alex
Never live with a close friend, huh? You have a point there. (I think it can work if you have a lot in common in lifestyle, though.) Closeness really doesn’t matter. You need to be compatible in a certain way. The same thing can be said about travel companions, don’t you think? I once traveled with a complete stranger and it went well.

Hi everyone

I think the housing situation of Japan (as iun and Lily said) might greatly influence sharing. And I'm also same as tomo & m.n, I want to have my own time and I want to have a space where I can live without any constraint. Actually, I lived in dormitory in the school days. It was fun, at the same time, I paid mind to roommates. As alex said, I guess our Japanese is basically not outgoing, and most of Japanese might be such a type. So the system of room sharing doesn't extend. (alex-were there 3 cats in your room?? Oh, I can't live there. Because it's hard for me to take care of cat!)

Though a little bit different form this topic, what I don't understand most is sharing room by man and woman, who is not family and lover, even if they are 4 or 5 people. I understand man and woman's friendship, but I don't know if men and women friends live together is possibility or not.

Hi Lily and alex,
Now I read both comments, I consider whether people live with best friend. I guess (just my opinion) it differs a little that the relation of friend and the relation of living together. I can't tell you well, but あまりお互いを良く知った仲ではない方がうまく生活できるかな、とも思います。私の周りに仲良しの友達同士が同居して、結局うまく行かなかったケースがあって。これって人によるのかな?

PS 私が偉そうにウェールズ語を訳したのを褒めてくれたーm.n Lily tomo—ありがとう!!でも全然Wow!じゃないよ(笑)。ウェルーズ語、全然分かりません・・・。iunのように、online dictionary で単語を調べて無理矢理文章に組み立てただけなの。文法はネットで調べても見つけられなかった。多分すごく特殊なんだろうね。私にとってウェールズ語は暗号のように見えるけど、Davidのお母さんからしたら、日本語の方が暗号だよね(笑)。

Hi Everyone,

It is interesting to hear what you think about sharing a house or flat. I agree that it is much easier when you are young, and I definitely agree that it is better not to live with people you know very well! When I was in my first year of university, my best friend was a guy from London called Nick. We moved into a house together in the second year, but we fought all the time! There was another guy called Andrew who I didn't know at all when we moved in, but we got on really well. In my experience, it was also better living with women and men together than all men, but I guess that would be too strange in Japan.
This year, I am teaching a reading class on Monday mornings, and I am going to introduce my students to this blog next week. I hope some of them will join us. I am not going to do a new entry tomorrow because I want to keep this topic going. I think it will be an easy one for them to get started. Some of them have lived abroad, and many of them have really good English, so I'm looking forward to introducing them to all of you. Actually, Kento and Makoto - the guys I told you about - are in one of the Monday classes, so I'm sure they will be interested in this topic.

Hi Yuki - have we met? I'm surprised to hear that you had a lecture on Wednesday afternoon - I didn't think there were any classes on Wednesday afternoons at Nanzan. Anyway, I hope you can join us next time we go for a walk.

See you all tomorrow.

David

Hi, Yuki(Yuki 2007年04月19日 11:56)
You must be another Yuki, right? Because we’ve already had Yuki, who is a regular.
Anyway, welcome ! And nice to meet you.

Hi, Alex;
Yes, the lesson: “Never live with your close friends” is an important aspect, I guess. The voice of experience is compelling.
And I just remember that I’m the one whose room is always like after 震度6.(地震が頻発しているのに不謹慎ですみません。でも、実際、そう言われるので(-_-;))--- means “What a MESS!!”
“doesn’t want to leave the dishes in the sink”?(ドキッ!) “to vacuum the public space once a week”...(たらり~ん...。)やっぱり私、やめといて良かったかも!とんだ大迷惑になるトコでした。

Hi I'm Yuko (not the one he mentioned in this blog, just so you know)
I'm new here and i dont know if i'm allowed to post s comment here but i thought this topic was very interesting so leaving a comment on here.
I actually shared an apartment 2 years ago with one of my close friends. My story isn't too different... Both of us lived far from the university back then so we thought it's a wonderful idea to live together. We liked the idea of having always someone to talk to and paying less for rent. But it wasnt that simple...The first month was great, we did everything together but then as the time passed by, we kinda drifted apart. I thought she was super lazy and she thought i was pesky. There was also a big difference....i was a morning person and she was a night person. We lived together for a year and both of us moved out and studied abroad after that. When we met for the first time in like a year, we were back to normal again. There were hard times but i remember the good times better. Living with someone who's not your family member teaches you to be patient and generous.

Ok, enough about my own experience. I believe the topic was "why don't Japanese young people share houses", right? I think it's because 1. it's a hassle 2. costs too much money 3. it's just possible to commute from home. It's a hassle in terms of contract-wise. When i was in america, all i had to do was contact the person who's looking for a roomate and pay her/him the money and you're ready. but here in japan, if you're a students, you have to sign tons of papers, show them your parents bank account in order to prove that you (your parents) have plenty of money and your dad's income. There are too many things to do, therefore, many students dont get attracted by this fabulous idea. Those are the reasons I think why Japanese young people dont even consider the idea.

I wrote too much and probably didnt really conclude well. It's my first try so be kind ;D Hope my story/ideas helped you in a way.

Hi everyone,
My PC had a trouble, and I couldn’t access the Internet for a long lime after moving.(さっきやっと繋がった・・・) I’m really sorry not to reply some of you.
むらさき, m.n, thank you for worrying about me. To tell the truth, it’s morning sickness.( *^_^*) So, I won’t get better for several months. すごい憂鬱です・・・
When I’m so sick, I can’t write in English. Please allow me to write in Japanese then.
これからたまったコメント少しずつ読んでいかないと!

Welcome back, Alex!

Hi むらさき,
I’m getting fun??? I can’t say that. I’m annoying how deal my stuff… 強烈なのは、私じゃないはず…?

Hi pink NY,
Exactly!!! My job is very awkward. Anyway, my situation is very nice for people who learn English as you said. So I try to about it when I got stressful situation.
By the way, anything depends on people, right? But I think nationality related to each personality. Of course, each person is different, even family, though.

Hi tomo,
Your comment reminded me my 3000 yen. I got it like you! But I would waist that money until arriving at air port…

Hi Lily,
Thank you very much!!! You always give me good words. Yes, it’s soooooo hard. My communication skill is just like kids have. It’s poor for adults. Anyway, I would not be a “loser”. I talked to myself.

Hi iun,
I feel like watching the awful news almost every day. I feel sorry to the family of victims about the incident of Virginia. どこの国でも、問題は山済みですね・・・

Hi tomo,
You, too? But you have family now, right? Do you have a time for yourself? I might live the house shared if I am in another country.

Hi Alex,
I’m sure how much your paper work is so hard. I don’t have the experience of it, though.
I guess you are a very sensitive and perfect person. So you can’t stand like the lazy person (like me…), right? I think you can’t live the person if he or she is more close to you. I agree with your comment why Japanese people don’t share houses and flats.

Hi Ayako、
私も、インターネットで、ウェールズ語のサイト見たけど、チンプンカンプンでしたよ。

Me neither. If the men and women share a house in Japan, something must happen. Do you think so?

Hi Blue Dream,
Welcome back!!! I hate computer trouble... BTW, what does "morning sickness" mean? I'm lazy now, I can't have energy to check it by myself now. 私は、最近、やる気がしなくて、憂鬱。五月病???

Blue Dream, conguratulations!!
コウノトリが来たってことですよね!
Please take good care of yourself. Wow!!

Blue Dream
Congratulations! :-D
I have no idea what it’s really like but it must be hard. Take it easy! Don’t push yourself.

m.n.
Blue Dream is going to have a baby!

Hi all!

>Hi Yuko!
Nice to meet you! As for the topic, I completely agree to your opinion!!

>Hi! Blue Dream
First of all, I have to say sorry, cos I thought you're guy!! SorryXD
Anyway, conguratulations!!

>Hi Alex
That's nice!I know what you mean, you have to fill out so many documents, right?
Besides, you have to go to some place to get some certificates or take a exam or yadda yadda....
It's a pain in the neck, and it's totally unacceptable!!

As for the topic, I actually talked about this recently with my hubby.My hubby also wanted to know the reason why the Japanese people don't share the apartment.What I was saying at that time was that because the Japanese people DON'T have to do that.My hubby said, "Why?". I said, "Because they're capable to live by themselves from financial standpoint and if some of them can not afford that, their parents will allow them to stay the house if they like."My hubby said, "What about students? They can't afford to do it." "Most of the Japanese students commute from their parents house to their universities or some schools, and the rest of them move to the dorm, or they rent the apartment.I'm not pretty sure, but most of their parents seem to support the fees for the dorm or the rents for the apartment. Mind you not all people."I heard that before, in the States, generally after graduating from a high school, the American teenagers like eighteen or nineteen, have to move out of their parents house as soon as they can. It seems that the American teens have to be independent earlier than the Japanese, and it seems to be a typical American style. I told my hubby that some of my Japanese friends still live with their parents,and my hubby said, "What!? They're almost ○○ years old, right? It's kind of creepy."I think the American teens just move out of their parents house can not earn enough money to live by themselves, that's why they have to share the apartment.This is the one of the reasons why the American people tend to share the apartment.There are a lot of people who use "Student loan" to go to a college or an university by themselves in the U.S.And I heard it's popular here. I think this also indicates that they have to be independent from the parents in their early stage.I'm a bit digressed, but in my opinion, the number one reason that the American people have to share the apartment is that, it's simple, they just can not afford that. That's why they share their place with someone else.

'Til next time


Pink NY

Blue Dream - congratulations! When is the baby due? Ig it is a boy, I think 'David' is a nice name...

NewYuko - thanks for making a comment. New people are always welcome! I had never thought about that, but you are absolutely right. Things like contracts are a real hassle in Japan. The idea of adults needing a 'hoshonin' is very strange for Western people.

Pink NY - I think the question about what is the right age to become independent would be a good next topic. I must admit that I feel the same as your hubby about Japanese people living at home with their parents for a long time, but I guess it is just a very different culture.

Makoto told me that he can't live by himself because it is too expensive, but it takes him 2 hours to get to uni and 2 hours to get home every day. If he lived in Seto and got a part-time job for those 4 hours instead, he would be able to earn at least 3000 yen a day, which is 60,000 yen a month. Plus he would not have to buy a train ticket, so that is another 20000 yen. That means he would be 80,000 yen a month better off. I often wonder why Japanese students who have to travel a long way don't think about that. I guess that in most cases, their parents don't want them to move away.

See you later.

Hi Blue Dream,

Congraulations!!! Please take care of yourself!

Hi むらさき, Lily,
Thank you! I didn't know that expression.

Hi Everyone,

Blue Dream- congratulations! Oh, I know morning sickness.. 何しても治るものじゃないし、憂鬱ですよね。 Just be lazy! I think it's kind of difficult for you to being lazy, but don't push yourself. Take a good rest every day, OK? I know you have a wonderful husband, so 上手に甘えて、今まで以上に大事にしてもらってね^^

Yuki- Hi! Nice to meet you and thanks for joining us! Like Murasaki said, we have another "Yuki" here. So next time, you might want to add something to your name so that we don't get confused. For example, we have "Pink" and "Pink NY" here;-)

Yuko- Hi, welcome to the blog! Your story and ideas helped us a lot, thanks. And of course you can post your comment, anytime!

Ayako- ほんと、ほんと、ウェールズ語って暗号みたい! でもayakoの言う通り、Davidのお母さんからしたら日本語の方が暗号だね~(笑)

m.n- Yes, me too, I need to have my own time. I can hardly have it now. But I'll have some from next year because my daughter will enter kindergarten;-)

Pink NY- Really? American teenagers like eighteen or nineteen, HAVE TO move out of their parents house as soon as they can? And there are a lot of people who use "Student loan" to go to a college or an university by themselves? Oh, that's a big difference. You are right, most Japanese parents support the fees for the dorm or the rents for the apartment for their children. My husband works in a bank, and there are a lot of PARENTS who take out a loan to help pay for their children's education.(大学、留学、寮費、1人暮らしの援助etc..)  日本では就職して独り立ちをするまで援助するのは親のつとめ・・という感じがありますが、家を出るかどうかは“have to”ではないし・・。 私は子供に親元から離れた生活を経験して欲しいと思っているので、「大学に行ったらアルバイトして家を出るんだよ」と言っていますが、学費と家賃くらいは親持ちかな・・と思っていました。(他の生活費はアルバイトで何とかしてもらって) なるほど・・、アメリカ方式なら子どもが大学へ行こうと、どこへ行こうと親は破産しなくてすみそう(笑) That's a good idea! それにいつまでも親元にいるのは“creepy”なのね。 でも女の子でも? 日本だと女の子の1人暮らしには親があまり賛成しないですよね? こういう考え方は日本だけなのかしら・・? そんなに早くから自立するなんて驚きだったけど、子を持つ親としてとても勉強になりました。 Thanks!

See you later,


Tomo

Hi again,

This morning, as I was leaving the house, I decided to practise darts for a few minutes. I wasn't really concentrating, but I threw a maximum 180 score! I was soooo happy! I have never managed to do that even though I played darts a lot when I was younger. For those of you who don't understand darts, you get points for hitting different sections of the dart board. The highest number is 20, but there is a small section for double 20 (40) and an even smaller section for treble 20 (60). The highest possible score in darts is achieved by throwing all 3 darts into the treble 20, and that is what I did this morning. I was so excited that I took a picture. I will send it to ALC and ask them to put it on the blog. Have a great day!

Wow! It's beginner's luck!? Just kidding :-)
I feel something good is going to happen to you!
Have a good day.

Hi David,
You did it! Congratulations! 何かいい事がありそうですね~^^
Have a great day!

Hi, David;
INCREDIBLE!!
Look at the picture! Bravo!!!

Welcome Yuki the new girl and Yuko - who’s not David’s student ;-)

Yuko, Pink NY,
Thanks for sharing your experiences and information. I’ve never lived by myself in Japan or shared an apartment so your comments were quite informative and inspiring to me.

I still live with my parents, although I’m thinking of moving now. I’m generally happy with it, although it was easier in many ways when I was living by myself in Canada. I think, in Japan, if you are single and can commute from your parents’ house, people’s attitude is likely to be “Why moving out?” rather than “Why not?” especially when you are a student. (BTY, it’s interesting that we call it “実家” while they call it “parents’ house” in English.) Personally, it seems to be such a waste to pay extra money for rent and use extra energy. Living in one household is more economical and eco-friendly. Having said that, I totally agree that young people should be independent to some extent and I think it’s good for young people to experience some hardship trying to make ends meet or living with someone else.

As for American situations, I often listen to npr (National Public Radio) on the internet and heard some talks about young people’s independence. One time it was about student loans. They said there are more and more students in the US who borrow money and have a hard time paying it back because they are big amounts of money for young people if they try to pay for everything. Another time they said more young people are staying with their parents these days. I don’t remember the details but I remember a middle aged woman called in and said that in her generation young people felt like they shouldn’t have been friendly with adults and staying with her parents was out of the question. I guess she was talking about the time of antiwar and hippie movements and stuff. She also said she is happy for the younger generations that they are on good terms with their parents and feel comfortable enough to live together. I suppose those are only one side of the whole picture but I was quite surprised to hear those stories because they were the aspects that I never thought of about the Unites States. Pink NY's stories brought it back to me.

David,
Nice shot!! (Can I say that about darts??) The dart board looks cool too!
Your students will join us? That’ll be great :-)

Tomo
Finally this weekend...! You must be excited :-)

Thank you, everyone! みなさんからこんなにおめでとうを言ってもらえるなんて、感激です!きっとお腹の赤ちゃんも喜んでます。Thank you!!

Lily,
Do you want to know what morning sickness is like? In my case, I feel as if I were carsick all the time. When I’m hungry, it gets worse. Sometimes, I feel nauseous. Can you imagine…?

David,
I guess the baby due will be around December. I have been so busy moving that I haven’t seen a doctor, yet. I’m going to go next week.
‘David’ for my baby boy? Oh well, I'll think about it.(lol)

Tomo
You suffered from morning sickness, too? You went through this hard time three times! You are a great mother! How about one more time?
Yes, my husband helps a lot. What I hate to do now(always?) is cook. So, he cooks instead of me. こういうとき本当にありがたいです。

Hi everyone!

>Hi David!
Now that you mentioned it, I clearly realized that.Yes, you're right, in most cases, their parents don't want them to move away.I don't mean, but some Japanese parents might not be independent from thier children. Some of the parents really spoil them.Or like Tomo said, Most of the Japanese believe that it's an obligation for them to help their children until they graduate from a college or an unversity.So they might want to keep an eye on them till then.

>Hi Tomo!
Well, About teens' moving out, I just heard it from people who are around me, so I'm not 100% convinsed, but statistically, I think it might be true.
Yes, that's right, like you said, the American system is convinient for parents, but there is also a defect for them.I think the only downside of course is that they can't count on their children very much.Some of Japanese parents think, "After retirement or getting old, I want them to take care of me!"But I guess this concept is not popular in the U.S. Mind you I don't say all of the American don't take care their parents.Back to what I was saying in the previous posting,one of the reason why American parents want their children to move out soon is that they probably want to enjoy their life without the children.I guess American typical parents like dating no matter whether they get old or not. They are parents but they are still a woman and a man.So I think some of the American parents look forward to moving out their children. Because they can enjoy a second life.

>Hi Lily!
As Lily mention it, most of the people who use "Student loan" have hard time paying it back, even if he's a doctor. My hubby has a doctor's friend, somehow.According to him, especially, doctors, attorneys, and people who acquired a MBA diploma(certificate) tend to borrow HUGE amounts of money.To me, having a lot of debt is SO MUCH pressure!!Yeah, like you said, I think living with the parents is not a bad idea, and each people have their own situations.

'Til next time!

Pink NY

Hi David! I come here sometimes to enjoy reading your diary:-) well, that's what i was wondering about. i live in England at the moment for university, and I share the room with four other girls. I used to live with so many different people until now, and I think it was nice experience. I felt quite unconfortable at the beginning of sharing the flat with them, but once getting used to do that, things are easiler! Not only chatting with them in the kitchen, also, cooking togehter sometimes if we get along well. Especially, during miserable winter time, its good idea to live with somebody to share the feelings or whatever we can find. And there are less entertaiment in here(shops are closed very early etc...), so living with someone would be fun.

I think there are some reasons why we japanese dont share the flat. At first, there are less types of flats which are suitable for shareing with other people. There are many type of rooms suitable for two people like couple or frineds, but almost flats are constracted for 1. Of course, people can rent the house with friends, but the house tend to be more family place. Second, i guess japanese people like to have personal space and time rahter having time with others.

So, flat sharing is quite fun, but it's very important who I live with! I wanna live with someone mature and quiet rahter than making noise and having party all the time :P

Lily- I agree that closeness isn’t the issue. Tell us about your trip with a stranger. How did it happen? And you are thinking of moving out of your parents’ house? Good for you! More freedom and more responsibility, but you once did it in Canada. You’re all set! Good luck.

Ayako- I guess when you live with your close friend, your expectation is much higher while your tolerance level is so low. And you’ll start to see something that’s unacceptable in your friend when sharing an apartment – things that you will never have to see when just being friends with her. But I guess what is how you learn to be patient and considerate of others, as Yuko said.

Murasaki and m.n- I may be on the anal side… I also learned that I should tell my roommates-to-be that I am a clean person and would want the same from my roommates.

Blue Dream- thanks for your comment. And congratulations on your baby! Your second, I suppose? I’ve never experienced morning sickness so I can’t even imagine how hard. Please take it easy.

Pink NY- yes, it’s a real pain in the neck! And they are very slow in responding. When I ask questions to a wrong person, they would say “I’m not the right person,” and won’t forward it to the right person unless asked. Even if they do, the “right person” won’t get back to me… Sorry for whining.

Tomo, how was the event? Was it today? You may still be on your way home. Let us know what David was like and how the even went.

Hi Everyone,
I'm going to Nagoya tomorrow! I'm really excited! I'll tell you all how it went when I'm back. I'll leave home at 5 a.m. tomorrow morning, so I'll go to bed early tonight. (I don't think I can sleep well tonight, though!) I just want to say ‘Thank you’to you guys who gave me good advice and encouraged me at that time. I couldn't make up my mind without your help. Thank you! 行ってきま~す*(^^)*

Lily, yes, I'm very excited and a bit scared. But I believe you;-)

Blue Dream, one more time? Nooooo, give me a break! Take care of yourself!

Pink NY, "American typical parents like dating no matter whether they get old or not. They are parents but they are still a woman and a man." I love this! I want to enjoy the second life, too!

Alex, it's tomorrow! ドキドキ、ドキドキ・・ I'm saying "I can do this, I can do this.." to myself;-)

Kiko, Maki, Nami, Sora, how have you all been? Hope you guys are doing well.

David, I'm coming to see you tomorrow! 待っててくださ~い^^

Goodnight and have a great weekend.
(まだ寝ないけど。。(^^)v)

Tomo

Hi team.

>Pink NY
・・とすると自分は完全な「creepy」ッスねorz.
(社会人になってもう何年も実家だし・・・)

>bluemoon
CONGRATULATIONS!!
I wish you`ll give birth to healthy baby.

>m.n
うーん確かにどこの国にいてもそれぞれの国で
色々な問題があるんですねー。
BTW,Did you hear the news about
a barricading case of NASA?

>むらさき
日本で言うところの陰陽師?みたいな人たちだったんでしょうね~^^;

>ayako
いやいや、でも多分ayakoさんの方が的確に表現してるんだと思いますよ。自分は調べてさらに謎が深まっちゃいました^^;

>David
Wow!! Did you have a great lucky day?

me?it was a bad day, today.

When I went to the English conversation school, I noticed leaving my wallet in my house.
(I have only "Suica")
Last week end , I lost my metro pass too.
(but, I have already found it.)

I am a fool?!

iun

Hi tomo,

Have fun and try lots of hings!!!

I hope tomorrow is a big day in your life♪♪♪

tomo, sorry

hings→things

Hi David and Everyone,

I'm home! It was a long journey but I did it! I asked people many times before I got lost. Everything went good. I really had a great time. I'll tell you all about it tomorrow!

Tomo

Tomo, you made it back home! You did it! Congratulations! Get some rest now, and tell us "all about it" when you're ready.

Hi tomo,

Look forward to your story!!!
お疲れ様でした♪

Hi Everyone,

Listen to my story! I did it! It was easier than I thought! I'm going to tell this in Japanese because it's going to be long and my English brain was a bit tired. And I want the readers of this blog who I met yesterday to read it.

《今日はたくさん書きたいことがあるし、昨日会った人にも読んでもらいたいので、日本語で書きます。》

昨日は朝の4時前に起きて、出かけてきました。 最初の難関は広~い東京駅だと思っていたけど、思ったよりもスムーズに新幹線にたどり着けました。 迷う前に何度も人に聞いたのが良かったんだと思います(笑) 東京駅の駅員さんは無愛想でにこりともしてくれなかったけど、でも行き先はちゃんと教えてくれました。 正しい新幹線に乗れたあとは少しホッとして、小旅行気分で窓の外を眺めていました。(当たり前だけど天気が変わる!) 名古屋駅から最初の乗り換えはすぐに分かったのだけど、最後の乗換えがわからなくて、ちょっとパニック(笑) その辺にいたお姉さんを捕まえて教えてもらいました。 何とかかんとか最終駅の尾張瀬戸駅に着いて、これから会場を探さなくっちゃ!と思っていたら、改札の所に案内の人がいたので、話しかけると「まっすぐ行った建物の4階です」と教えてくれました。 でも英語で! “うわ~、ここからもうEnglish world?!”と思いながら歩いていくと、女の人が「私も参加するんです」と話しかけてきてくれました。 その人と話しながら建物に入っていったのだけど、何とその人はこのブログの読者で、私がTomoだと分かるととてもビックリして喜んでくれました。(私も嬉しかったですよ~^^) ドキドキしながらエスカレーターを上がっていったらDavidが見えて、“きゃ~、Davidがいる~”と私のドキドキは最高潮でした(笑) Davidに近づいていって、“Hi, David”と言うと、最初は“?”という表情で私を見て、私がニコニコして黙っていたら(というより言葉が出てこなかった)、“Tomo?”と言ってくれたので “Yes!”と答えると笑顔でWelcomeしてくれました。 私はこの時の為に“It's wonderful to meet you!”とか、“I'm happy to meet you!” とか色々練習していたのだけど、結局言えなかったような・・。 実はこのときはすっごくドキドキしていたので、自分が何をしゃべったのかよく覚えてない(笑) とりあえず、その後受付をして、参加者はA~Dのグループに分かれて、4つのレッスンを受けました。 先生はそれぞれ違う部屋にいて、グループごとに順番に回っていくのです。 どのレッスンも分かりやすくて、おもしろくて、先生達もユーモアたっぷりで、みんなよく笑って、すごく楽しんでいたと思います。 それぞれポイントがあったけど、どの先生も共通して言っていたのは、とにかく「反応しよう」ということでした。 自分の言いたいことや、完璧な文章、文法にこだわらず、とにかく黙ってないで何か言おう、単語ひとつでも、ジェスチャーだけでも、キャッチボールのボールを落とさないようにちゃんと返そう、ということだったと思います。 Davidのレッスンは日本の新聞から子供が理解できない言葉に線を引き、それを子供が分かるような簡単な日本語に変える、それからそれを自分の知ってる英語で表現するというもので、多分目からウロコの人がたくさんいたと思います。 Davidは日本語でレッスンをしてくれたのだけど、本当にペラペラでしたよ~。 他の先生もみんなDavidの日本語はすごい、と言っていました。 日本語でみんなを笑わせながらのとっても楽しいレッスンで、全部が私の想像以上でした。 ジェスチャーでコミュニケーションを教えてくれた2人組の先生は、お笑いコンビかと思うくらいおもしろい先生で、私は笑いすぎでほっぺが痛くなりました。 あと石原真弓先生とも握手してもらって感激!(すっごく細くて綺麗な人でした) 先生のお話も同じ日本人の英語学習者として共感できて、みんながうなずきながら聞いていたと思います。
あとは何を話そうかな・・。 頭の中がいっぱいで、あれもこれも話したいのだけど。。 そうそう!Umida にも会いました!(みんな覚えてるよね?) 会場で見かけて、“あれ?あれはUmidaかも・・” と思って話しかけてみたら、当たりでした。 あと、イベントが終わってDavidを待っている間に、Umida とお手伝いに来ていた卒業生の女の子2人と、一緒にお茶をしながらおしゃべりしました。(もちろん英語~) 1人はトランスレーターとして働いていて、もう1人はこれからスチュワーデスになる素晴らしい英語力の女の子達で、Umida はもちろんペラペラだからついて行くのが大変だったけど、でも久しぶりに女の子同士(?)のおしゃべりが出来てすごく楽しかったです。 Umida はインタビューのイメージと違って、もっとアクティヴで、とってもおもしろい人でした! またブログにコメントしてね、と言ったら David宛じゃなくてTomoにすると言ってくれて(笑) DavidとUmidaのやりとりはおもしろいです!

まだまだ続きがあるのだけど、とりあえずお昼なのでこれをポストします。 何か質問があったら何でもどうぞ・・!
また後で書くから待っててね~*(^^)* 

Tomo

Hi Tomo!
Thank you for your report! I'm sooo happy for you!!
I got to go now but talk to you later :-)

Hi tomo,
え?これ、ホントにtomo??と思うほど、行動的にチャレンジしてきた内容にビックリ!英語のレッスンを受けて、Umidaや他の生徒さんともお話できて、とって充実した1日だったようで、楽しかった雰囲気がとても伝わってきます。一つ難関(?)を乗り越えると、もう何でもできちゃいそうな気分にならない(笑)??
チャリティー講座には全国各地から様々な年齢の方々が集まって、色々な出会いもあったのでしょうね。続きのレポートを楽しみにしていま〜す!!

《つづきです》

イベントの間は、Davidは企画者(責任者?)として忙しく、あまり話す時間がなかったのだけど、イベントが終わったあとにイタリアンレストランに行って、パスタとピザを食べながらたくさん話しました。 私は行く前に色々話すことを考えて(練習して)いたのだけど、Davidを目の前にしたら全部忘れてしまって・・(笑) でも、何度聞いても分からない時は日本語で話してくれたし、私もレッスンで学んだように、とりあえず何か言おうと思って頑張りました。 話しているときは文法とか、時制とかを考えている余裕がなかったので、きっとめちゃくちゃだったと思うけど、それでもちゃんと通じたし、練習していった“Did I get my meaning across?” は一度も言わずにすみました(笑) m.n、ブログのイベントのこともちゃんと話しましたよ~。 Davidは夏の東京は暑いから、秋にしようと言っていました。 でも何人参加者がいるのかよく分からないのと、新しい人たちにも参加してもらいたいし、ただ集まって、おしゃべりしたり、一緒に食事をしたりでいいのかな・・?と言っていました。 何かみんなの意見があったら聞かせてくださいね。 あとは何を話したかな・・。 私の家族のこととか、Davidの考えてる本のこととか、ブログへのidea のこととか・・。 私の方は話したかったことの半分話せたかな・・という感じだったけど、ひとつだけこれだけはお願いしよう、と心に決めていたことがあって、そのフレーズは練習通りに言えました(笑) 私の持っているDavidの本にサインしてもらいました~! Davidを目の前にしゃべっていても現実感がないというか、信じられないという感じだったのだけど、帰りの新幹線の中でそのサインを眺めて「本当に会ったんだな~」と改めて実感していて、でもどうしても顔が笑ってしまうから、ちょっと怪しい人だったかも。。(笑) 行きとは違って、帰りは乗り換えも新幹線も人に聞かずに出来ました・・!
あと、イベントの会場で会って、ブログにコメントをしてくれると約束してくれた人が何人かいます。 日本語でもいいからコメントしてくださいね。 Nameの所に名前と、Comment欄にコメント書いて、Postを押すだけです・・! Previewを押すと書いたコメント読み直せるのだけど、そうすると名前が消えてしまうので、もう一度Nameのところに名前を入れてくださいね。
So don't be shy, we are always welcome you all!!

Alex, m.n, Lily, Ayako, thanks for your messages! I did it! やれば出来るってこのことなのかな~と思いました。 決心するまではあんなに怖いと思ってたのがウソみたい(笑) ayakoのいう通り、昨日の私は人生の中で一番行動的で勇気があったかも。 Umidaに話しかけるときも一瞬、どうしようかな・・と思ったのだけど、せっかく4時間もかけて来たんだから、何でもチャレンジしよう!と、もうどうにでもなれ~っていう気持ちでした(笑) 本当に昨日の私は自分でも信じられないくらいの行動力だったと思うし、知らない人とも(参加者&他の先生やアシスタントの人たち)たくさんしゃべりました。 もう1年分くらいしゃべったんじゃないかという感じです(笑) いつもの生活の中でも出来るといいんだけどな~。。

Speak to you soon,

Tomo

Hello,

Tomo, I was excited and enjoyed reading your story. Your challenge gave me something!

こんにちは。コメントするのはとても久々です。tomoさんの報告、なんだかドキドキしながら読みました。で、何か一言いいたくなっちゃって。おめでとう、じゃ変ですが、なんかそんな感じです。よかったねーとか、やったねーとか。

see you!

taco

taco, thank you! Really? My challenge gave you something? Oh, I'm happy to hear it! Please keep joining us;-)

Hi Tomo
I enjoyed reading your posts.
Someone knew you from this blog? Wow, that’s exciting! I wonder how many people know us here and never talk to us? You asked (or told?) the people you met there to join us on this blog, didn’t you ;-)
昨日のイベントでTomoに会われた方、必ずポストしてくださいね!会ってなくてもイベントに参加した方、参加してなくてもこのブログをよく見てるよ~っていう方(^^)、Please join us!!
The lectures sound really fun! I can picture you having a good time. You talked to Umida and got David’s autograph too? Wow, you did a lot of things yesterday. You did great! See? I told you, you have the strength and confidence in you to act positively when you come to it :-)

Hi Team,

Before I forget, do we have a new member? Someone called P wrote a comment about living with other people and said she is in university in England at the moment. P, I hope you will join us again - I would really like to hear some of your stories about living and studying in the U.K.

Tomo - thanks for giving such a wonderful report of the event. I think that on this blog, Tomo is much more famous than me, so I was really excited about meeting her as well! This blog is interesting because you get to know people quite well even though you have never met them. Anyway, I showed this blog to some more of my students today, so I hope some of them will join us in the near future. I will try to do another entry tomorrow.

See you soon,

David

PS Tomo - every time I go to Nagoya I get lost when I try to change from the train to the subway, so you did really well to get to Seto on time!

David
You mean the post without name? I think :P is a smiley, sticking out her tongue :-) I was wondering too if she would realize it and introduce herself again. It’s difficult to catch someone’s attention when you don’t know her name, right?
2007年04月21日 11:30 にフラットシェアについてコメントを書いてくれた、イングランド在住大学生のあなた!お名前がなかったので、またメッセージをくださいね!
Am I turning into a mother hen of the blog like Tomo??

Hi, Tomo!
お疲れ様でした。そしてご報告もどうもありがとうございました。
Tomoのドキドキ、ワクワク、ニコニコ(ニヤニヤ?)がよ~くわかりましたよ。何て楽しそうなのでしょう!良かったですね。
Tomoの中にもともとあった、いつもとはちょっと違う一面(とってもステキ!)が今回の体験(英語)を通してぐ~んと表に出てきたのではないかなぁと、私は思います。
家宝(Davidのサイン入り本!)もできたし、次はNY?なんだか私までワクワクしてきました。どうもありがとうございました!

Hi Alex,

I think I would get along with somebody who is defferent from my personality if I share a flat. Because I tend to irritate about seeing me. I want to say that I seem to see the mirror of myself if the person is similar to me. However, the "価値観" need to be the same???

Hi tomo,

You are the incredible person! You did it more than I expected. Don't be upset what I said. I mean you tried everyhing and change yourself? Or you were not shy? Anyway, you are すごい! I wish I was there and talked with you... But I'm sure that I couldn't talk to others like you if I went there.
Thank you for telling your experience you did yesterday. You feeling sent to us very well and I found out how much you had fun! And thank you for talking about the meeting we will meet. Autumn is good. I hate the too much hot weather! Let's think about the detail little by little.
お疲れ様でした♪♪♪

P.S I remenber UMIDA. Of course!!!

Hi, iun

I see the news about NASA. Terrible... We have to think about what made the person like lose others life.

BTW, I'm thinking now about sharing houses and flats are fun because of some people's comments.

Hi David and Everyone,

Good morning, how are you? I went to bed early last night because I was so sleepy and had a muscle ache especially my legs. Maybe I walked(often run!) a lot on Sunday. I need some exercise, I know..

David- Like Lily said, I thought ":P" was a face mark. But we've got a new member, so we should say hello to her or him.
I was also surprised that the lady was very surprised when she found me "Tomo". Actually, she jumped back in surprise. But it felt nice, it feels like I have a lot of friends everywhere in Japan! But, YOU are a famous wonderful teacher, I'm just a big fan of you. I want to let many people know how wonderful this blog is. And I want to say them “You can improve your English through this blog like me if you keep trying.” Writing was very difficult for me(of course, it's still hard), but it worked for me. Just not writing, writing my own thoughts or feelings for communication works for me. I think it works for everyone who is learner of English. It's a great way and worth to try.

Hi, new bloger!
Welcome to the blog! I'm sorry I didn't say this sooner. Let's enjoy together! But next time, please put your name on your comment so that we can call your name;-) Look forward to hear more comments from you!

Hi Lily, むらさき, m.n,
Thanks for your response! Yes, I tried a lot of things and had a really great time! 約束してくれた人からのコメントが今日は来るかな~と待ってるんだけど、どうかな・・。 
I'm talking about you, you know who, right? We are looking forward to your comments!
Lily, yes, you are turning into a mother hen of the blog;-) That's nice, let's keep it up!
ドキドキ、ワクワク、ニコニコ、ニヤニヤ。。 むらさき、これはぴったりの表現です。 昨日は何度も娘に「ママなんで笑ってるの?」と言われてしまいました(笑) I can't stop smiling!
m.n、たくさんチャレンジしてきたつもりでも、出来なくて後悔してることもあります。 それは全員が集まったfree timeの時で、お昼の後とか、レッスンが終わった後に自由におしゃべりできる時間があったのだけど、自分の近くの人、同じグループだった人、近づいてきてくれた先生とは話せたんだけど、やっぱりなかなか自分から全然知らない人に話しかけに行くことが出来なくて。。 来てくれるのを待ってるんじゃなくて、もっと自分から行けばよかったな~と後悔しています。 “誰とでも自由に話してください”と言われると、どうしよう・・と困ってしまう自分がいました。 次はもっと自分からいけるように頑張ります! 私も全然知らない人と話すのは苦手だけど、イベントに来た人たちはみんな英語が好きで来てる人だから共通点もあるし、私にとっては電車でとなりに座った人よりずっと親近感があって、話しやすかったです。 m.n、私と会っても話せない・・? I'm very looking forward to meeting you;-)

See you later,

Tomo

Hello, everyone

I'm Kiyo. It's my first comment.
I've been reading this blog since last year.
I'm big fan of this blog.

私の英語力が足りないので日本語で書きます。
22日に憧れのTomoさんとお話できたことがきっかけとなり、思い切ってポストしました。 ちょっと遅くなってしまいましたが約束守りましたよ~。

声をかけた人が偶然にもTomoさんだったなんて本当に私はラッキーでした。Tomoさんは思っていた通りの素敵な方でしたよ。
違うグループだったのでたくさんお話できなかったのが本当に残念です。
遠方からの参加、本当にお疲れ様でした。

Davidは本当に素敵な先生でした。
「辞書は嫌いだから使わない」
「知ってる言葉をいくつか言えば単語が分からなくても相手が助けてくれる」 
と言っていたのがとても印象に残っています。 辞書ばかり頼ってる自分にガツンとパンチをもらった感じです。
楽しくて本当にためになるレッスンをありごとうございました。
彼は日本語も私より沢山知っていて使いこなしているかもしれないですね。 私は日本人なのに・・・まだまだ勉強不足 (苦笑)
英語も日本語も両方勉強しなきゃ。 

これを機にもっと英語を勉強してこのブログに参加できたらと思います。 
皆さんの英語力が素晴らしいのでついて行くのが大変そうだけど
頑張ってみようかな。

See you later

Hi Kiyo!

Thanks for joining us! 待ってましたよ~^^ 約束守ってくれてありがとう! 憧れなんて言われると照れちゃうけど、でもすごく嬉しいです、Thanks! あの時はかなり緊張していたので、Kiyoが声を掛けてくれて本当に嬉しかったです。 世の中にはこんな偶然もあるんですね~。
私も最初のコメントをポストした時は本当にドキドキしました。 でも1度できれば大丈夫です。 きっともっともっと参加したくなると思いますよ。 ここのみんなはとってもフレンドリーだから、後でたくさんwelcomeメッセージが届くと思います。 そうしたらまた返事をしてね^^ 「もっと英語を勉強してから」じゃなくて、今から一緒にやりましょう! 私の最初の英語のコメントなんてめちゃくちゃでしたよ~。 これだけ上達できたのはこのブログとDavidのおかげです。 だから自分の英語のレベルなんて気にしないで参加してね。
Welcome to the blog! Kiyo, you are now a regular;-)

Tomo

PS Call me Tomo, not Tomoさん. That makes me happy!(もちろん日本語でも^^)

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