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2007年7月 6日

Smoking (2)

Hi Team,

Our discussion this week seems to have moved away from just smoking. Now we are talking about all drugs. I think that is a good thing, because many Japanese people have a very poor understanding of what is a drug and what is not a drug. Basically, a drug is any substance which creates a chemical change in your brain. Whether you like them or not, tobacco and alcohol are both drugs and both can be very addictive. (依存性がある). Actually, one of the most addictive drugs is caffeine. I’m sure those of you who drink a lot of coffee would notice some changes in your body if you stopped drinking it for a day. If you visit a 精神科 at a Japanese hospital, you will see many, many people who are addicted to alcohol. These people have often lost their jobs and hurt their families because of their drinking.
I am not trying to say, of course, that alcohol is always a bad thing. All I am saying is that it is a dangerous drug that needs to be used carefully. As I was running this morning, I remembered something that (I think!) was said by George Harrison of the Beatles. (Or maybe it was John Lennon?)
“There are no good or bad drugs, just good or bad relationships with drugs.”

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(I have tried to speak a bit more slowly today!)

I think this is very true. Alcohol is not necessarily good or bad. It depends on the relationship each person has with it. Many people have good relationships with drugs that are illegal, and many other people have bad relationships with drugs that you can buy in any convenience store. When I was in the police, we learned a lot about the many different kinds of drugs. I was surprised to learn that heroine does not damage the body as much as people think. The problem is that because it is illegal, it is very expensive, so the people who sell the drug mix it with other things to make more. It is these other things that are really dangerous.
Actually, I am very concerned about this topic at the moment because an American friend of mine who lives in Sapporo has been arrested for having marijuana in his house. Marijuana grows wild in Hokkaido, and he found some in the forest and brought it back to his house. In court, the prosecutor asked the judge to sentence him to 8 years in prison for this. 8 years! Can you believe it? The prosecutor probably went home, smoked a cigarette and drank some alcohol after his day at work. Why is it okay for him to do that, but not okay for my friend to collect a wild plant which is not as bad for your health as tobacco or alcohol and smoke it at home? It does not seem very logical to me. Anyway, we will find out on July 25th what is going to happen to him. I hope the judge is more sensible than the prosecutor.

I found the book I was talking about. It is called さらば、悲しみのドラッグ, and it is by 水谷修. This is what he has to say about tobacco and alcohol.

ゲートウェイドラッグ(入門薬)としてのタバコ

タバコがドラッグの一つと言うと驚く人も多いと思います。しかし、タバコに含まれるニコチンは非常に依存性の高い興奮作用を持つドラッグなのです。

The next part is my summary:
依存には二通りあります。一つは精神的依存です。もう一つは身体的依存です。タバコはこの二つの依存を共に持ちます。

And back to his words:

タバコは確かに法律で二十歳を過ぎれば、その乱用が認められています。このことから「タバコなんて、たいしたことないよ」とか、「大人だって皆吸ってるんだから!」などと考える人がいたら、それは、間違いです。タバコの喫煙が法的に認められていること自体に問題があるからです。

About alcohol, he has the following to say:

もっとも恐ろしいドラッグの一つとしてのアルコール

皆さんはお酒を飲んだ経験がありまうすか。あるアンケート調査では、中学生の五割、高校生の八割が飲酒の経験があるという数字が出ています。今、多くの大人たちはみなさんと仲間意識を作ろうとして、みなさんにアルコールを勧めます。アルコールのもたらす恐ろしさは、この日本ではあまり認識されていないようです。

アルコールは非常に強い抑制策用を持つドラッグです。

If you are interested in this topic, you should definitely read the book. I read it because I had a student who was addicted to tobacco, alcohol, glue, and thinner. These drugs almost ruined her life. How was she introduced to drugs? Her parents are both heavy smokers and drinkers. I think you would be surprised to find out how many young people in Japan use drugs like 覚せい剤 and シンナー.

I think I am quite unusual because I don’t really like any drugs. I have never smoked, I only drink alcohol a few times a year, and I don’t drink coffee or tea. I am not against drugs, but I think it is very important for people to understand what they are so that they can use them carefully. I often hear people in Japan say that tobacco and alcohol are good for relieving stress. I strongly disagree with that. Drugs do not solve problems, they just mask them. If someone has a lot of stress, then they need to make changes to their lifestyle. Keeping a stressful lifestyle and using drugs to make you feel better in the short-term can never be a good idea. If you use drugs because you need them to help you with something, you will end up relying on them. I think it is possible to have good relationships with most drugs, but you should only use them when you feel okay anyway and just want to have some fun.

Anyway, that is my philosophy on drugs. I think I have a different view from most people because of my experience in the police. In Liverpool, I met users (including young children) of heroine, cocaine, marijuana, and every other drug you can think of. In my experience, though, the drug that caused the most problems for the most people was alcohol, and most of my colleagues felt the same.

Let’s do a more cheerful topic next week! (Panda’s idea about ways of relaxing). Have a great weekend, and I will see you on Monday.

David

Comments

Hi, all
The name Yomawari Sensei reminds me of the fact that there are so many students (high schools’ and junior highs’) who smoke and even use drugs. When I was a tutor fifteen years ago, I taught an high school boy (in fact, he is my cousin), and I found an ash tray(灰皿)in his room. I was very shocked and asked him if he smoked. He told me that he smoked and that his mother admitted it.
The other day there was a news that some teenage school boys PLAYED with butane gas cartridge(カセットコンロのガス缶)and there was an explosion in the room, so they had burn injury. My husband told me they were not PLAYING but INHALING the gas while they were smoking. So the gas got the fire of the tobacco and exploded. (I hear that gas cartridge and other gases in spraying cans also make ecstasy.)
私の英語、意味が通じましたか?うまく表現できない自分がくやしい・・・

David, I am sorry to say that I don’t fully agree with your idea. I think we must pay attention to the cultural and historical background when we talk about tobacco and alcohol. Illegal drugs have the reason to be placed as illegal, and there is also reason why alcohol and tobacco are not. I know that you are angry because it’s not logical to sentence him 8years in prison while they smoke and drink at home, but please remember that they are doing legal things!

I have to go now. I also want to hear smoker’s opinion!

Good see you again,Team.

テキストエディタで打ちためてる間に話題がdrugに移ってる・・・orz

>Tomo
You are busy now, are you?
Please relax on your work.
根詰めないでね^o^

>Beth
Nice to see you! I wanna talk with you.
(まあ自分は筆不精なのであまり書き込んでませんが・・・)

>Amica & Panda
I think so. his speaking speed is natural, but when I visited to NZ, I felt that Kiwi spoke faster than David. It was difficult to understand what they said.
Davidの音声は確かに早いけどじっくり何度も聞いてると
段々分かってくる気がします。(聞き取れない単語はすっとばして前後の言葉から想像しているだけかもしれませんけど・・・)

それと、Macが聞き取り法をオススメしてくれましたが、自分の場合は例の「英語漬け」でひたすらディクテーションをしてみました。
まだ言葉全てを聞き取れてるわけではないですが、1日10分15分やるだけでも違いますよ。中学生のころの朝の10分ドリルみたいに定期的にやると効果があるみたいです^^。
(未だに映画とかTVの英語は聞き取れないけど^^;)

and Thank you for your advice ,Mac.
I`ll try it!


This week's topic is very interesting for me.
I hate tobacco. Unfortunately my grand sister and father was heavy smoker.(But now, my father trying to stop smoking. Sister......is going on....)
so Our familys house`s wall paper wrapped by tobacco-stained.(ToT)
I always said "Don`t smoking in living room!! GO TO UNDER THE AIR FAN !"when they had started to smoke in our family`s house.then they were furious ! I couldn`t understand their mind.

and I hate 歩きタバコ. Recently , there are a lot of smoking-free areas in common scene of Japan. Smokers who had been bundled off came to smoke the cigarette while walking..
I sometimes can see a bit lots of walking-smokers. Mostly, They are walking in my windward.
The smoke attack me in without fail. so I am not able to stop cough easily!

Japanese's morality is high............. Who said that?

I think that is a phantom!


Oops, I gotta go.

see you later/iun

Hi Panda,

Sorry, but for me, logic and reason are more important than culture and history. In the past, many people said it was okay for white people to own black people as slaves because of history, culture and tradition. Of course, it was never okay, and now it is illegal. To me, logic, reason and the difference between right and wrong are the most important things, not whether something is legal or illegal. If our society wants to ban drugs because they are dangerous, I fully accept that, but if that is the reason, then we need to look at which drugs kill the most people and do the most damage and make our laws based on modern scientific knowledge.

Laws are made by politicians, and as we see so often in Japan and other countries, politicians are usually not very wise, and often not very honest. There have been many terrible things done in the past that were legal at that time. Societies can only develop when people challenge laws that are clearly wrong. And that is an ex-policeman talking!

Hi there!How do you do.はじめまして。
I have smoking and drinking parents too.
I hated smoking and drinking when I was child.But my relatives were all heavy drinkers,so that I'd been very near
alcohol and tobacco since I was born.I couldn't even drink a drop of beer.But at now I'm drinking and smoking above the usual.ごめんなさい。ここからは日本語で話します。
僕が酒、タバコを始めたのは16歳の時でした。
何故かというと、はっきりした理由はわからないのですが、高校受験を終えてなんとなく人生で初めてsurvival race みたいなのを経験して、別に自分が失敗したわけではないんだけど、やけに空しくなって(それ以前から似たようなものは感じていたんだけど)それに加えて最近アメリカのニュースでもよく取り上げられているように(多分)憧れのミュージシャンや俳優がテレビやドラマで格好良くタバコを吸う姿を見てその習慣を始めたのだと思います。
歩きタバコもポイ捨ても人の迷惑を考えずしていました。でも、今はひどく後悔しています。後悔と言うよりは本当に申し訳なく思います。たまに高校生が通学途中にタバコを吸っているのを見掛けますが、”俺を見ろ”と言いたくなります。体力は衰えるいっほうでベースボールのグラウンドを一周するだけで足がつります。Actually,I am upset in my life,でも、体だけは大切にしろと言いたい!チャンスは必ずやってくると思う。その時に要の体が動かなければどうしようもない!
パーカーさんの言うようにdrugは一時的に平穏やfunnyや自信をあたえてくれるだけなんだけど、but 上手につき合えば明日の糧になることも僕は知っています。By the way,my father says he doesn't drink but when he is satisfied with his day. And ちなみに僕はマリファナや覚醒剤、ヘロインなどには一切手を出しておりません。それをやると瞬速で人生が終わると思ったからです。でも、ちょっと機転を利かせると長く付き合ってくれるお客さもの方がありがたいかもしれませんね。

Hi everyone,

David wrote
"Laws are made by politicians, politicians are usually not very wise, and often not very honest. There have been many terrible things done in the past that were legal at that time. Societies can only develop when people challenge laws that are clearly wrong.".

I think we are very happy when we read David's comment.

In England they say "lawmaker" but in Japan they say "assembly men and women."

Japanese people don't feel endangered by "assembly men and women."

I think we should call every "assembly men and women" "lawmakers".

According to time and circumstances, lawmakers are dangerous.

They use alcohol and tobacco as money trees.

They think alcohol tax and tobacco tax are more
important than citizens of the state.

Hi Team,
ごめんなさい、長いです。めんどくせ~と思ったら遠慮なくパスしてください(^^;)
Just like iun, I’ve been writing my comment little by little, and it kept getting longer and longer every time I read new posts. I’ve got to post it at some point! So, please note that the following comment doesn’t really respond to some recent posts.

In my first work place, people used to smoke at their desk all day. It would get hazy in the office in the afternoon! My eyes hurt, and the ceiling and walls were dirty with all the smoke. It was terrible. I was so glad when smoking in the office was prohibited a few years later. Nowadays, I can always stay away from smoke, because in most public places they forbid smoking or have a special section for smokers. I think these movements were driven by public opinion and need, which is a very good trend. I can’t emphasize enough that everyone should have the right not to suffer from smoking. I’m all for removing vending machines and banning public smoking, but I personally don’t mind preserving smokers’ right as long as my non-smoker’s right is protected.

I’m not sure about a ban on smoking itself at the moment, though. I don’t smoke and never have smoked, but some of my friends do. For them, smoking means relaxation, something that keeps the 'quality of life', no matter how contradictory it sounds. Smoking causes no direct problem to anyone but the smoker himself as long as he follows the basic rules, and it has been acknowledged in the society for a long time. In a case like this, I think public consensus is important when it comes to legal bans, because a drastic change can also cause social issues even if it is ultimately the right thing to do. As Blue Dream said, encouraging them to quite smoking by administrative measures such as raising taxes and restricting smoking in public places would be the best approach for now. Then eventually, we might be able to move on to a total ban in the future.

However, I don’t think it will ever happen with alcohol. Alcohol has been part of people’s life in every human society and integrated into their cultures. As for the risks to our health, there is no doubt about poisonous nature of tobacco, but it’s not the same with alcohol. Scientists say different things about food and drinks every day, but I don’t think alcohol does any harm if we drink modestly. I don’t drink often, but it is my belief that good food and drinks make our life richer and more enjoyable. It is something we can share with our friends and family. As David said, it’s all about your relationship with it. I totally agree with him that we should be aware of the negative effects alcohol and other ‘drugs’ have on our body and mind and educate young people to use them properly, because we are not going to simply get rid of them. If we were to eliminate everything that kills people, other than weapons of course, we would have to ban owning cars and bikes too, for example, because traffic accidents kill thousands of people in this country every year. There are a lot of things we know we shouldn’t do or things that are a risk to our lives and do it anyway. We have to make conscious decisions and live with the results. Following the basic rules, legal or customary, is essential for any activity, and moderation is always the key in any relationship.

Being right or logical isn’t always the same as being good. Trying to do the ‘right’ thing can cause worse problems if we don’t tread carefully. History tells that. The prohibition law in the States back in early 20th century is a good example, isn’t it? Logical or illogical, frankly, I don’t give it a damn. We are talking about human society not mathematics. What we should do is try to make it better and do what we ourselves can do for it, and that doesn’t include breaking an existing law in a foreign country in my book.
Anyway, that’s my philosophy.

And, yes, cheerful topics are better. I’m glad David shared what he knows about drugs with us; it was very educational. But, more than anything else, I want this blog to be a place everyone feels encouraged to try and use English to communicate and express themselves.

Panda wrote
"it’s not logical to sentence him 8years in prison while they smoke and drink at home, but please remember that they are doing legal things!"

There are many Japnese who think they can't fight city hall(お上には逆らえない).

There are many Japnese who don't want to make waves with their bold remarks.

We should admit the cultural level of Japanese people are lower than that of Britons.

Hi,Panda

Thank you for your question . I said the name "Beth"
reminds me of Little House on the prairie ,because
in the drama, Laure's husband,アルマンゾ calls her
"Beth". I'm a big fan of that drama .

When I read Lily's comment, I thought we should reflect on our queer habits over drinks.

Many Japanese brag they are hard drinkers.「彼は酒豪です。」とほめる。

Drinking is nothing to brag about.

Many Japanese place a great deal of pressure on someone to drink. 上司が「私の酒が飲めないのか。」と部下に言う。

Many Japanese think non-alcohol drinkers are not sociable.

When I want to drink oolong tea over drinks, my boss criticized me.

In Japan, many Japanese men must drink alcohol at a banquet.

Kimio - I can't agree with you more on that point! When I say good drinks, it definitely includes non-alcohol drinks. Maybe I was lucky, but people around me have never been like that. Actually, I know quite a few people including middle-aged guys who love drinking parties and can be crazier than any other drinkers without any alcohol in their system. I find it kind of endearing, by the way ;-) Don’t you, girls?

Hi David and Everyone,

When I was a high school student, I went camping near a sea with all classmates of my class.
My classmates brought many alcoholic drinks, so we drunk and made merry.
Then suddenly my friend collapsed on the spot.
She was getting convulsions and foaming at her mouth. 
We were very flustered, but we called an ambulance at once.
After the ambulance carried her to the hospital, we stayed in the tent, and we were scaring.
Next morning, our teacher came to us, and he told that she was 急性アルコール中毒 but her life was not in danger.
Then we were ordered not to leave our houses for a week.

Alcohol is very danger for teenagers, but they can buy them easily in Japan.
Fortunately my friend was saved, but possibly we might have lost her.

However I think alcohol is not always bad.
Now, I don't drink because it is bad for my throat, but my grandmother and sister like to drink.
If they don't drink too much, I don't think they must stop drinking because they seem to be happy when they are drinking.

…書いてるうちにまたわけがわからなくなってきました。
要するに、たしなむ程度のお酒なら(もちろん、未成年者はダメです)、飲酒はそんなに悪いことではないのかと…。
私は喉のためもありますが、基本的にアルコールに弱いので、全く飲みませんが。

Amica

Katsuki – Welcome to this blog! Your words sound true, because they are from your heart and experience. Thanks for sharing.

Murasaki – How are you doing? I miss you!

Hi David and all,
I've finished Task 10(Plans and schedules). Yay! Now I'm so relieved because I tried and got some tasks in this week. Looking back the whole learning, from Task 3, I dictated my first take and wrote down the last take on the book directly( on a blank space). By writing my own task, weak point became more clear , and I could check them. These way would be helpful and useful,and I'll try it in the same way next time. This "task based learning" would be sometimes difficult to complete to the last, but your encouragement and advices(of course blog family!)were so supportive, and I could get many hints from your book. The purpose which I tackled with this book was to build my basic, and I've learned a lot.


Talking of the book by「夜回り先生」, I borrowed the book named 「ドラックなんていらない」for elementary school students at the ward library . It is written about drugs in a easy sentence,but I could catch the concept of drugs.( Actually I couldn't borrow the book which you mentioned, and now I'm waiting for borrowing from another library.)This week's topic-smoking and drugs; it was good opportunity for me to open my eyes and think from different aspects.
Now I'm looking forward to new topic!

Good night,

Anne

Hi David,
I understand your point. I have to admit that I have a very poor understanding of what is a drug and what is not a drug. I've heard a little about 覚せい剤 and シンナー, but I have no idea what marijuana, heroine and cocaine are, I only know their names and that they are drugs that are illegal. If I saw Marijuana growing wild in somewhere, I would not notice that it is marijuana. I had a very very bad image of 麻薬. It breaks people's mind, health, lives, everything, and people become mental and physical wrecks. I hated those people because they have so weak mind, hearts. I thought that ruining their own lives was a really stupid thing, but if alcohol is a drug, I can't say anything bad about those people because I'm one of them. Of course, I'm not addicted to alcohol, and I have a good relationship with it, though. You know, I'm a mother. I have to set a good example for my children, so it was hard to accept the fact that I was enjoying a drug.
I also drink some coffee every day, and caffeine is one of the most addictive drugs.. Oh no, drugs are everywhere!
Anyway, I really didn't know about drugs, so it was a good study, thanks.
私は‘drug’については本当に無知でした。 麻薬といえばすっごく悪いイメージで、自分には全然関係のない世界だと思っていたのに・・。

iun - Thanks for your kind words! 気楽に頑張ります^^

Katsuki - Good to have you with us! Thanks for sharing your story.

Anne - Congratulations on finishing all the tasks! You did it!

Have a great weekend, and see you soon.

Tomo

Hi Lily and everyone,
I had a similar experience. I suffered from smoke in my first workplace. I changed jobs after getting married, and smoking inside was banned there. I felt very comfortable in the job. The separation of smoking areas is being promoted in many offices. The system itself is a great step toward protecting non-smokers’ rights, but it also has a problem, you know. Smokers can openly leave their works and take a rest, getting paid, while non-smokers are working hard. It brings a loss on employers, too, so some companies give additional reward to employees who succeeded in giving up smoking. However, it is unfair, too, because non-smokers can never get the additional money. The best way I think of is employers separate smoking areas and reduce smokers’ salaries in a certain rate to make up for a loss. If they give up smoking, they can get normal salaries. Of course, smoking employers must follow the rule. What do you think of my idea? Is there any company doing it?

Hi David,
The ex-policeman’s words about drugs are very convincing!

I was smileed by Tomo's words.

She said
"I also drink some coffee every day, and caffeine is one of the most addictive drugs.. Oh no, drugs are everywhere!"

David said
"I have never smoked, I only drink alcohol a few times a year, and I don’t drink coffee or tea."

I want to cry out like Tomo.

Oh no, tea?

It's said green tea increases cancer suppression.

I drink green tea everyday.

HI Team,

I'm not sure, but I don't think that green tea contains much or any caffeine. As far as I know, it is very good for your health. I have friends who drink so much coffee that they say they can't feel normal in the morning until they have drunk a few cups. That is addiction! Actually, in Britain and the US, a lot of people drink de-caffeinated coffee (Decaf). Do you have that in Japan too?
I have actually really enjoyed this week because it is great to hear everyone's stories about this topic. I'm glad you all understood my point that drugs (including alchohol) are not good or bad, but they need to be understood and treated carefully.

Katsuki - thank you for your very moving comment. I really liked what you said about your father only drinking when he had a good day. I think that is excellent advice. My policy would be "Never use drugs because you need them; only use drugs when you feel fine and want to enjoy yourself."

Blue Dream - I had never thought about the unfairness of smokers being allowed to take smoke breaks, but I love your idea of reducing their salaries!

Amica - your story was very shocking. Your friend was lucky, but every year many young people die from alcoholic poisoning. The problem is not the alcohol, it is the lack of knowledge and understanding about its dangers. Many peole still have this idea that if you can drink a lot, you are a strong person.

Lily - wise words, as always, but I think you misunderstood what I meant by logical. It is not logical to make something illegal because it is dangerous, and then make something which is more dangerous legal. Maybe 'rational' is a better word. All laws need to be rational. I agree with you 100% about prohibition in the US. Actually, my argument would be that all drugs should be made legal, with much better education for people about their use.

Tomo - it is interesting that you say you have a good relationship with alchohol. I have many friends who had a good relationship with the drug ecstasy. They used it about once a month, had a good time, and gradually stopped using it when they got older. If they had been caught, however, they would have gone to prison because it is illegal. I think Lily said that people have always used alcohol and they always will. I agree with that, but it would be more accurate as 'people have always used drugs, and they always will'.

In Britain, there is an old lady who is famous for the fact that she keeps getting arrested. She has very bad arthritis, and she uses marijuana in her cooking to help her with the pain. (Marijuana is very good for pain relief). She freely admits that she uses this drug, and when the police came to her house, she gave them cookies made with marijuana! Her case has made people realize that the law is stupid. By the way, if you are caught with marijuana in Britain now, you normally just get a warning.

Finally, I think the point about pressure is a really good one. There are many people in Japan who don't want to drink, but they are forced to by pressure from bosses and senpais. Again, this is a problem of education.

Thanks again for making this a very interesting discussion. (And Katsuki, I hope you will join us for other topics too.)

Hi Everyone,

Many peole still have this idea that if you can drink a lot, you are a strong person.

上記のDavidの文の中で、私宛てのコメントの最後の文↑の意味がわかりません…。
なぜ私がstrong personなの???
どなたか助けてください!(涙)

Amica

Hi Amia,

David paraphrased what I wrote.

I wrote
"Many Japanese brag they are hard drinkers.「彼は酒豪です。」とほめる。".

私とDavidの結論は、
Drinking is nothing to brag about.

Many peole still have this idea that if you can drink a lot, you are a strong person.

酒をたくさん飲めたら、その人は強い人ですか?

では、また。

Hi Amia,

David paraphrased what I wrote.

I wrote
"Many Japanese brag they are hard drinkers.「彼は酒豪です。」とほめる。".

私とDavidの結論は、
Drinking is nothing to brag about.

Many peole still have this idea that if you can drink a lot, you are a strong person.

酒をたくさん飲めたら、その人は強い人ですか?

では、また。

Sorry,
Please forgive my multi-post.
Please delete my repeated post.
二重投稿をお許しください。
どうか削除してください。

Hi Amica,
この文のyouはamicaのことではなく、一般的な人々のことを指しています。日本語では一般論を話すとき主語をたてませんが、英語ではyouを主語にします。ですから日本語訳は、「酒をたくさん飲めたら強い人だと考えている人がいまだにたくさんいます。」という意味です。Youをあなたと訳したとき意味がおかしいなと思ったら、一般論を話していると疑ってみてくださいね。

Hi Kimio and Blue Dream,

ありがとうございます!!
なるほど、Youは必ずしも「あなた」とは訳さないんですね。
また一つ勉強になりました♪

Amica

Hi, all

I went to Sapporo Beer Garden with my family today. We ate ジンギスカン and my husband enjoyed drinking beer. The people around me seemed to enjoy themselves, talking and drinking. But me, I couldn’t enjoy it at all!!!! David’s words are in my mind, and I thought: Do they all keep good relationship with this drug?? Doesn’t my husband drink too much? Are we and these people doing good things or bad??
…This topic is too much for me. I am sure a lot of people reading this blog will think just like me when they are drinking!

Hi, Lily
You are very thoughtful. I am happy to read your comment. And I always am!(←この英語正しいかしら・・・)

Hi, Q chan
I am so sorry!!! I didn’t know that Laura was called Beth by her husband.

Hi, Blue Dream
私もデビッドのコメントを読んで、convincingという言葉が頭に浮かびました!Blue Dreamと同じ言葉が浮かんで、ちょっと嬉しい私です。

むらさき!
最近、何か足りないな~と思ったら、『笑い』が足りないのですよ! I am calling you, むらさき!

Hi,all

As for Amica's question,can we say "Many people
still have this idea that if they can drink a lot,they
are strong peolpe."
 一般論を話すときtheyが主語でもいいですよね?

Hi,Lily
Your comment is very impressive and persuasive .
I can't understand the part :History tells that.
The prohibition law in the States back in early 20th
century is a good example,isn't it?
Could you tell me about it more specifically?
I'm not familliar with American history.
禁酒法っていうのは、言葉としては聞いたことあるんですが。。。

Hi,David
I'm surprised that if you are caught with marijuana
in Britain now,you normally just get a warning.
Just getting a warning is much different from being
sentenced to 8 years ! In this case, I support
Japanese law.
日本では、大麻取り締まり法により、イギリスに比べるとかなり厳しい罰則になっています。みだりに所持していたり、譲ったり、譲り受けたりすると5年以下の懲役です。

 I hope you all have nice weekend.

Hi,panda

You don't have to say sorry . (^^ ;

Your story was interesting,and I understand how you felt. This week ,we've been in the topic.
「話題に熱くなってた」って言いたいんだけど、あってる
かしら。。。

Lily wrote
"Being right or logical isn’t always the same as being good. Trying to do the ‘right’ thing can cause worse problems if we don’t tread carefully. History tells that. The prohibition law in the States back in early 20th century is a good example, isn’t it?"

I think Lily referring to the following episode.

密造、密売はマフィアの莫大な資金源となり、彼らは違った意味で禁酒法の恩恵を受けた。彼らの組織は政治家とも強力なパイプを持ち、皮肉にも禁酒法推進派達を間接的にしかも巧妙に支援した。この時代を代表するマフィアにアル・カポネがいる。

But, I think Lily's indication is afterthought.

Hi Q-chan - can I ask why you support the Japanese law? I am guessing that you don't know very much about the drug marijuana, but I can tell you that experts (not politicians) all agree that it is less dangerous and not as bad for your health as tobacco or alcohol. So why do you think that those drugs should be legal and people should be sent to prison for 5 years for using marijuana? In Holland, it is legal to buy and sell marijuana. Nobody dies or gets hurt, and many people have a good relationship with the drug. Of course, some people have a bad relationship with it, but not as many people as have bad relationships with alcohol. Because marijuana is illegal in Japan, the sale of it is controlled by the Yakuza. This brings in a lot of money for them and brings people who buy it into contact with some very dangerous characters. The law in Britain is less strict than Japan, but it is also less strict than America. American law is very strict on marijuana, but many more people smoke it there than in my country.

Hi Kimio - sorry, I don't agree with you at all. Prohibition was not right or logical, and that is why it didn't work. Similarly, the current laws on drugs in most countries including my own are not right or logical and that is why they don't work either. Since America started its 'War on Drugs', the amount of drugs sold has gone up and up and up. Have you ever seen the movie 'Traffic'? It shows clearly how the present system simply does not work. I'm afraid I don't agree with Lily that it is not always good to be right or logical either. Does that mean that it is sometimes good to be wrong?

Hi Panda - I used to love going to the Sapporo beer garden, but only for the food because I don't like beer! My goal last week was just to talk about the smoking ban in the UK, but we got onto the topic of drugs as well. Sometimes being educated about a subject is not comfortable, but it is still a good thing unless there is nothing you can do about that problem. I think the main point I wanted to make this week is that if you want to have a good relationship with drugs, you need to understand them. The question of whether someone drinks too much is not a matter of opinion; doctors and researchers can tell us clearly what the safe limits are. If your husband drinks less than those limits, then there is no danger to his health and he can enjoy it. If he drinks more than what doctors say are safe limits, then he may be damaging his body and you would be right to be worried.

One thing we did not talk about last week was drinking and driving. I was amazed by attitudes to this when I came to Japan. I have met so many people here who regularly drink and drive that it is quite shocking. When you talk to them about it, they say 俺は大丈夫 - ぜんぜん酔っ払っていないから (It is usually men, but not always.) The point they don't understand is that one of the effects of alcohol is to give you confidence in your own ability while weakening your judgement. That is one reason why people enjoy it. I live in Aichi, which has the highest number of deaths because of drink-driving every year, so it is a particularly worrying issue for me. As I said before, the big problem with alcohol in Japan is not that people drink it, but that they don't understand its effects and dangers very well. Panda, now that you are thinking more about the dangers, that should help you to have a better relationship with alcohol. Maybe that feels uncomfortable now, but it will be good for you in the long run. Anyway, next week we will be talking about ways of relaxing, so nothing to worry about there!

Have a great day.

Thanks for your comment, David.
The most important is to have good knowledge of alcohol, and keep good relationship with it when we drink. Yes. I will never forget that.

About drinking and driving
I hate that, and my husband never drives when he is drunk. He doesn’t even drink ‘energy drink’ like Tafuman, Regain and so on, when he drives. I drank only water yesterday, because I have a baby, and I had to drive back home. I saw some people driving drunk at Sapporo Beer garden. I think that driving drunk is really a big problem.


Hi, Q chan
「話題に熱くなってた」
ありがとう。そうですね!!!(でも、Q chanの英語が合っているかどうかは、私もよくわからなかったの・・・ごめんね!)

Hi Panda,

On slightly more cheerful note, I saw on the internet this morning that a giant panda has given birth to healthy twins in China. I thought that might make you a bit happier!

How are you all ?

Hi,David
Thank you for your comment. As you said, it seems
that I don't know very much about drugs. I've never
been taught about them (except for tabacco).I was
surpried when I heard that my American friend had been taught about them at school.
大麻ーマリファナ、ヒロポン、覚醒剤、などなど、名前を聞いただけで、みんな悪いものという、ひっくるめた悪イメージしかなくて
個々の度合いについては、知るすべもなく、今まで生きていました。日本で教育を受けてきたここの他のメンバーさんは、どうですか?それとも、私が田舎育ちだからかしら !? よくアメリカのドラマなんかで、パーティーやっててドラッグを使ったり勧められたりというシーンを見ますが、別世界の事のようで。

Thanks to this topic,I learned a lot from you.

I said I support Japanese law in that case,because
it is illegal in Japan and I thought people might not stop using it ,only getting warning.

Hi,Kimio
Thank you for your explanation.


I hope

I hope you have a nice day. が切れてました。
(^^) /

Kimio – Thanks for explaining the prohibition law concisely.

David and everyone,
I have a feeling that David and I were speaking based on different concepts of words and perhaps talking about similar things – either that or we never agree ;-) What I mean is there is no universal standard of ‘right’ or ‘logical’; they all depend on the reality. There are countries or states where alcohol is banned for religious or other reasons, and in other areas like Canada drinking outside is illegal. Marijuana was legalized in some countries mainly because it was already rampant (and it’s supposedly not so bad) or it’s been used traditionally for a long time. In Vancouver, where I lived, hard drugs and HIV infection were a social problem and the officials even tried providing clean needles and facilities so that drug addicts could use them ‘properly’ and prevent HIV infections even though those drugs were illegal. Some people were even talking about legalization, and others argued those measures were wrong and a waste of tax money and that they were only encouraging drug use. I’m not judging anything and I don’t know well enough to do so, but those things make me wonder what is right or logical.

All right, enough dark topics for a week. I'm looking forward to the next topic.
Have a nice day!

Anne – You did it! Congratulations!! :-D

Sorry, I got so caught up in the discussion about drugs that I forgot to say congratulations to Anne! Thanks for reminding me Lily. I am at work now, but I have had enough and I am going to play on my bike in the mountains.

ちなみに、今月の21日に私は友人のバイクを借りて鈴鹿での練習走行に挑戦します!隣さんも行くので、二人とも事故以来の初走りになります。どきどきするけど、かなり楽しみにしています。昨日バイクの店に電話をしたら、とてもいい知らせがありました。1月の事故で壊したバイクはただの配車だとおもっていたけど、ばらばらにして、部品をオークションで売ったら役20万がてに入るそうです!事故の前に走る状態で売ったとしてもたぶん30万くらいにしかならなかったのに‥
友達から借りたバイクは、もし気に入ったら買うという約束があるので、もう少ししたらバイクのレースを本格的に復活するかもしれない。この話は全部お母さんに内緒なので、これについては是非英語のコメントを書かないでくださいね!Maybe bikes are my drug!

See you tomorrow if I don't get lost in the mountains.

Hi Anne,
Congratulations!! You've done! I couldn't finish Task6 today, but I will do during this week....I hope. :-)

David - Didn't you get lost and reach home? ;-)

The topic is getting over, and I learnt and noticed some things from it. I think that one of important things is you have to have a good relationship with drugs, which include alcohole and maybe coffee... My frineds call me "coffee addict"! Of course, except illegal things.
Q-chan - I also have bad images for drugs, but I don't have a lot with Marijunana. Becuase I've heard that it is much better than tobacco for health. As David said, we have wild Marijuana in Hokkaido, and it grew in the fields near my house 20 years ago. (It was stamped out, evey time it was found.) Oh, no, no! I didn't pick it up...I am sure! Anybody is related to the police?!

I'm looking forward to the next topic!

Good night!
Maki

Hi all,
I was spending hectic days and it was hard mentally. I told you I wanted join you this week, but almost have done? But let me write down my opinion about smoking, drinking and drug.
First of all, I hate smoking. I hate the smell and sometimes I can’t breath if somebody smoke close to me(I don’t have asthma). My last company was terrible. They don’t have smoking room. So many people smoke in the room where we work. Air is not clean. Especially, winter time. It was horrible. We couldn’t open the window. We couldn’t use ventilator because of noisy. I had always seen white smoke and breathed the air of smoking. It was the same as I smoke even though I’ve never smoked. The half of reason why I quit my last company is this condition. I met many many people who smoke and don’t care others who don’t smoke. This made me hate smoking more and more(however, all of my ex-boyfriend smoke…) .
Next, about drinking. I like drinking because I like the taste. But I can’t drink a lot. Many people drink a lot like until they throw up. Actually, I’ve never throw up. I stop drinking before that. If you drink too much, you might lose your memory in that time and do something bad to others, sometimes it can be illegal. In this case, drinking is not good.
Finally, about drug. This is not my business because I’ve never touch it. Only I know the information about it is what I read news and watch TV. My image about it is drug is so bad and break people’s lives and bother people around you. David said that drug is not always bad. I misunderstood what you said? I can’t agree with you. Because many people lose your lives because of drugs. This is luck of my knowledge about drug?
I know my opinion is contradiction. I seemed to say things I like is ok if it is not too much and things I don’t like is not ok if it is a little bit. My opinion includes may have strong stereotypes. What I think is all of them are not good for people, but we can’t stop. Because they can make big big money. If those things are prohibited strictly, many people lose job and money. So we can’t stop it during people exist in this world.

I have to go to bed. Good-night!

Hi David and all,

We've finished last week's topic, and I know it's time to move into the new topic, but let me tell about drugs a little more. After reading Q chan and Maki's comments, I thought again about drugs. I had different images and a little knowledge on (so-called)each drugs-marijuana, thinner, stimulant and so on.( I didn't have any idea of smoking even though I know smoking is bad for our health.) Even though nobody dies or gets hurt, and many people have a good relationship with marijuana, I support Japanese law. 8 years sentence would be long and strict, but it is effective to halt the spread of the use of marijuana; just warning is not enough, I think. Marijuana is one of the drugs to be the gateway to other drugs as David introduced from the book, and could be the trigger to get into the world of "yakuza" and dangerous society.
I sincerely hope that judge's sentence will be the more reduced one than the prosecutor's .
Now I'm thinking about my relaxation !!

> David,Tomo, Lily and Maki

Thank you for your words. Maki, You are close to the goal!
> Hi,Katsuki
Nice to meet you! Thank you for sharing your story, and it reminded me of my son's days in senior high school.

Have a good day,

Anne

Hi panda,
そんなふうに言ってもらえて、嬉しいのは私のほうです!ありがとう!

Hi Qchan,
>大麻ーマリファナ、ヒロポン、覚醒剤、などなど、名前を聞いただけで、みんな悪いものという、ひっくるめた悪イメージしかなくて個々の度合いについては、知るすべもなく、今まで生きていました。日本で教育を受けてきたここの他のメンバーさんは、どうですか?

私もそうです。大抵の人が抱いているドラッグに対するイメージは、「一度手を出したら最後、すぐさま依存状態に陥り、禁断症状と摂取の魔のサイクルから抜け出せず、やがては廃人になっていく。精神状態を狂わせ、幻覚・幻聴を引き起こし、奇怪な行動をとるようになり、殺人を犯すこともある。」といったところではないでしょうか。個々のドラッグの違いはよく知らず、すべての違法ドラッグにあてはまるものだと思っていました。ですから、マリファナがそんなに無害だというのは意外でした。よく見ると、喫煙は前半部分に、飲酒は後半部分にあてはまりませんか。両方ともドラッグだとDavidが言うのももっともです。それから、マジックマッシュルームやエフェドラといった合法ドラッグもありますね。個人輸入のダイエット薬にもそういった成分が含まれていることがあるらしく、ネットで少し調べただけでも、その実態に恐ろしくなります。法はすべて後手に回るものなので、違法か合法かというのは何の当てにもならないというのも頷けます。違法ドラッグは入手そのものが難しいので、やはり注意が必要なのは違法とされていないものですよね。海外のスーパーで薬やサプリメントを買っただけで、知らずに入手してしまっていたということもあるようです。
今週はリラックスがテーマですね。今回は「私のストレス解消法はお酒です!」と言える人はいないかも・・・。

Hi everyone!

It's very very hard for me to catch up with last week's heated debate. (Maybe, I might not have caught up yet…) Anyway, this is my brief comment about last week's discussion.
I'm not sure I understand all opinions (David, Lily and other everyone). I feel just one thing from the opinions that the law is very dreadful. The law protects people's life and order, but I doubt the law how correct or not. For example, people will be never sentenced to death penalty even if they kill a lot of people by drunken driving. I think 'what is the law?'. Teenagers naturally take tobacco to their life without getting the knowledge, because it is legal. They can't doubt that if it is good or not. I worry about future of our children very much.
The reason why not advanced by the restriction of the tobacco in Japan is that is defended by the law. 日本のタバコ事業法は「国民にたくさんタバコを吸って、たくさん税を収めてもらう・・・」と書かれています。Another reason, like David said, is most politicians who are smoker control this law today.
I don't smoke, but I drink coffee, tea, and alcohol. Actually, I write this comment with coffee and I'm relaxed! :-)
I'm looking forward to next topic.

Bye for now

PS今回の皆のコメントはとても勉強になりました!でも、全然追いつけな〜い:-(

Hi,Maki

本当に野生であるんですね。なるほどぉ。所変われば。。。ですね。

Hi,Ann

タスク完走、おめでとう!! わたしも、ぼちぼち、重い腰を上げないと。コメント読んで、私の考えている事と似てました。水際作戦は
大切だと。

Hi,Blue Dream

確かに。。。お酒!! とカミングアウトしずらい熱い議論だったねぇ。 (^ ^;)

Hi, m.n.
お疲れ様でぇす。Welcome back !

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