Hi David,
You got "Apple TV"? Lucky you! You are so excited? I know how you feel. Two month ago, I bought Blu-ray Disc decoder. As you know, the picture of it is so clear, and it can record for many hours, so I enjoy watching lots of movies which was recorded on it. (I can watch lots of movies on wowow.) It is my new toy.

Hi everyone,
Did you have a nice weekend? I had a "Bounenkai" with my friends last Saturday. We went to a Italian restaurant. We ate pasta, pizza, and "Bagna cauda". Have you eaten it? It is a vegetable dish. We ate various vegetables which dipped in a hot sauce which was made with olive oil, garlic, and anchovies. I love it! By the way, this month has Christmas Day! I put up Christmas decorations in my house last week. The other day, I had lunch with my sister. I asked her "What gifts for Christmas do you give to your sons?". (On Christmas Day, my nephews get only gifts from Santa Claus.) She said she is going to give it to only his second son. When I heard it, I was very surprised, so I asked "Why?". She said that her elder son is a junior high school student, and she and her husband know that he doesn't believe in Santa Claus now, so they said to thier sons "We made agreement with Santa Claus that you get gifts from him until you graduate from elementary school", and they said to their elder son "Now, you are a junior high school student, so you can't get gift from him since this year." He said readily "All right", but their second son said "Oh, no! I have only 4 years to get gift from Santa Claus!" It's very insipid to spend Christmas without gift, isn't it? So I will give gift to him on this Christmas!

Good night,

Amica

•  Amica
• 2009年12月 8日 00:43

Hi David,
＜ I can't imagine why, but maybe it was because they didn't want to hurt his feelings.
I agree with you.（笑）

It seems like you are very busy with your new toy(←No offence, sorry!), but would you give us some of your time, please?
As you know, Tsuneko and I were talking about the sentence "I'd like to see Oliver's photo again" on the last entry. You said 'lovely' would be okay, but we were not sure where to put it. If you say “Oliverのかわいい写真（or かわいいOliverの写真） がまた見たい”, where do you put 'lovely'?

1) I'd like to see a lovely photo of Oliver again.
2) I'd like to see a photo of lovely Oliver again.
3) I'd like to see lovely Oliver in a photo again.
4) I'd like to see Oliver's photo again. He is lovely.
5) I'd like to see lovely Oliver's photo again.

Which one is the most natural? Or is there any other way of saying that?

We also talked about the expression 'a photo/picture of someone'. If you say 'my picture/photo', it can mean 'a picture/photo you took', right? If you talk about 自分の（写っている）写真, which is more common, 'my picture/photo' or 'a picture/photo of me'?

We need your help!

By the way, I've heard the saying 'Young boys never grow up; they just get more expensive toys' before. Actually, you told me this saying when my husband got a big new toy - his bike. I think it's so true!(笑)

Speak to you soon,

Tomo

•  Tomo
• 2009年12月 8日 11:16

Hi Tsuneko,
＜Teru is not rude at all!!!
I'm glad to hear that. I helped him to write that comment, but he wrote it himself, and I didn't corrected it much, so I was a bit worried about his words.
I showed him your message again. There were some words(or expressions) he didn't know, but he managed to read it. He said your second try was perfect. You know, boys have a naughty(or bad) mouth, so his example was a boys' version. Anyway, thanks for your comment again. It was good reading and writing practice for him:)

Hi Amica,
Your nephew is lucky to have you as an aunt. He can't get a present from Santa Claus anymore, but he has another Santa - you! Amicaサンタだね＾＾

Talk to you later,

Tomo

•  Tomo
• 2009年12月 8日 11:29

【訂正】
and I didn't corrected it much, → and I didn't correct it much,

•  Tomo
• 2009年12月 8日 11:31

Hi David
How many Apple goods you have!
I haven't seen a person who has so many Apple goods like you！

I send 「I would like to watch Oliver's pretty photo again!」　on December 1ｓｔ and many idea have been written.
However I don't understand why 「pretty」is not fit in this sentence　yet ・・・
(皆様のアイデアをたくさん読ませていただいていますが、いまだに解らず・・・）

Green

•  Green
• 2009年12月 8日 13:04

Hi David and everyone,

"Apple TV"? Without your explanation, I couldn't figure out what" Apple TV" was. Maybe I should go to "Apple Store" instead of strolling around Matsuzakaya. Steve Jobs must be glad to hear that you love Apple toys.
For me, I got "ipod" this year, and this is a colse friend with me at the moment.

Hi tsuneko and Tomo,
I know David gives us advice concerning with your questions, but can I share my ideas with you?
Actually, I've been thinking about the position and the difference of the meaning on each sentence as well.

> 1) I'd like to see a lovely photo of Oliver again.
→I think 'of Oliver' makes it clear that he is lovely in the photo.
>5) I'd like to see lovely Oliver's photo again.
→I think this doesn't necessarily mean the photo is lovely.'I' might be wanting to see lovely Oliveｒ, and it CAN mean that picture of Oliver is lovely ,too.
Anyway, Iｔ all depends on the context, I think.

なんのこっちゃ、の全く整理のついていない考えですが、修飾する位置によってかかり方が違うのではと考えました。でも、状況によってすべてOKでは、とも。又、cuteでもいいかな、とも考えました.
I'm also looking forward to David's advice.

Anne

•  Anne
• 2009年12月 8日 13:06

Hi Green,
日本語で、”お転婆”は女の子に対して使えるけど、男の子に対しては使わないですよね。
どうやら英語では”pretty”は女の子に使えるけど男の子には使わないようですよ。
映画や歌でも"pretty woman"はあるけど"pretty man"は聞いたことがないですよね。こんな解釈でしょうかね。

•  Appoh
• 2009年12月 8日 14:29

Hi Appoh
I got it!
Thank you.

Green

•  Green
• 2009年12月 8日 16:38

Hi Tomo,

Sorry, I thought you had sorted out the issue about Oliver's photo. Basically, it sounds a bit strange to put an adjective before somebody's name like that. If you said 'a photo of your lovely nephew', that would be okay, but 'lovely Oliver' sounds unnatural to me. Here are my responses to the sentences you asked about:

1) I'd like to see a lovely photo of Oliver again.
(Okay, but it would be better without 'lovely'. Does this mean that you don't want to see a photo unless it is a lovely one? The best way to say this would be 'another lovely photo of Oliver'.
2) I'd like to see a photo of lovely Oliver again.
(I wouldn't say this for the reason I have given above.)
3) I'd like to see lovely Oliver in a photo again.
(Same again.)
4) I'd like to see Oliver's photo again. He is lovely.
(That's a lot better.)
5) I'd like to see lovely Oliver's photo again.
(Again, see the above explanation.)

Hope that helps,

David

•  David
• 2009年12月 8日 22:22

Hi David

Thank you. That’s I wanted to know.
As I said, when I read your correction of the sentence, you did not change “pretty” to “lovely”, just omitted it. It made me think usage of “可愛い” a lot.
Your explanation really helps me. Thanks again.

I wanted write more, but I was too tired to write….
I just wanted to say thank you.

•  amo
• 2009年12月 8日 22:57

David, Green, amo, Tomo, Appoh, Anne & everyone,

Thank you all! Thank to David's advice, we finally managed to sort out the issue about Oliver's photo, didn't we?! Yeay!

"I'd like to see another lovely photo of Oliver." is the most natural expression, isn't it?!

I didn't know it sounds a bit strange for natives if you put an adjective before someone's name. I will remember this.

Tomo, thank you for writing up the issue and asking David nicely for his help. Also, I'm very happy to get perfect score from Teru.

tsuneko

•  tsuneko
• 2009年12月 8日 23:12

Hi David,
It sounds that you've been very busy with your lovely new computer and other devices, and also you've been having a lovely time with them, right?
"Apple TV" is new to me and I'm not sure how much I understand what it is, even though I read your explanation. I have a ipod nano which I bought a year ago, but actually I don't think I use it properly yet.;-)

At last, I got the EJ!! Yeah!!
>because they didn't want to hurt his feelings.
Maybe you're right! (笑)
I read Tomo's comment and listened to David's interview as well. I enjoyed both of them!＾＾ｖ I didn't know the "SafTy DriVer" story and haven't seen the stickers!

Hi Amicaサンタ,
You're so sweet!

Bye for now,

Maki

•  Maki
• 2009年12月 8日 23:24

Hi David and everyone,

David, thank you for your explanation! It helps us a lot:)
Hi David and everyone,

David, thank you for your explanation! It helps us a lot:)
I see. I never thought of the expression 'another lovely photo of Oliver', and I didn't know that it sounds a bit strange to put an adjective before somebody's name, either.
Now we have sorted out the issue about Oliver's photo.　みなさん、スッキリしましたね～＾＾

I'm going to bed now.

Good night, and see you tomorrow.

Tomo

•  Tomo
• 2009年12月 9日 00:34

Hi　David,
Thank you for your advice.
When you cut off the word ”pretty”, as I mentioned before, I was wondering why you didn’t put another word instead.
I had no idea about adding “ another.” It helps a lot.
>Tomo,
Thanks!
>Green,
Greenさんの文章から色々広がって勉強になりました。
*watch→see
*pretty (lovely) の使い方。
機会をいただいてありがとう＾＾）

＞Amica,　
You seemed to have the great “Bounenkai” I’m going to have a party this Saturday.
Your nephews are happy to have a nice”SANTA,AMICA.”
>Appoh,
I often see “pretty” used as an adverb lately as you said; pretty much, pretty good, pretty nice…

I couldn't access the blog since the day before yesterday. I really hope it works well this time.
I did last comment from my husband's PC,though.)
I'd like to write more, but I'm going out today, so see you later.

Anne

•  Anne
• 2009年12月 9日 08:30

Hi Team,

疑問解決でみなさん昨日はよく眠れたのでは？（笑） Me? I did:)

Green、Davidの説明は分かりましたか？　ポイントをまとめると・・

英語では人の名前の前に形容詞(pretty、lovely など）をあまり付けないそうです。（人の名前じゃなくて、 'a photo of your lovely nephew'（かわいい甥ごさんの写真）のようにするならOK。）　でも I'd like to see a lovely photo of Oliver again. と言ってしまうと、「じゃあ、かわいくない写真は見たくないの？」となってしまうので（笑）、「Oliverのかわいい写真がまた見たい」は I'd like to see another lovely photo of Oliver again. の方がいいそうです。

他のメンバーも感じているように、David の説明を読んで私が思ったのは、「誰々のかわいい写真 がまた見たい」と言いたくなっても、一語一語全部英語に訳さない方がいいのかな、ということです。　なので、やっぱり最初の Davidの correction の I'd like to see Oliver's photo again. が一番自然なのかな、と思います。　どうしても「かわいい」を入れたいなら、Tsunekoさんが作った4番目の例文のように、I'd like to see Oliver's photo again. He is lovely. と2つに分けると、「じゃあ、かわいくない写真は見たくないの？」という誤解も避けられるし（それに短くて簡単だし！）、この方がいいのかな、と思いました。

Appohの説明で pretty がダメな理由はもう分かっていると思いますが(Thanks for your help, Appoh!)、前にDavidが「かわいい」（cute、pretty, lovely）の使い分けの説明をしてくれたので参考までに。。

『cute には小さい、子犬・子猫などのようなイメージがあります。女性についての話だとこれは日本語と一緒でしょう。日本人も「かわいい系」「綺麗系」と言いますよね。アメリカ英語だと特に人の外見についてこの単語を使いますが、イギリスだとあまり言いません。
pretty を cute の代わりに使えるケースが多いけれど、pretty は特に女性の顔について言います。（性格の話だと cute はOKですが、pretty は使えません）

私の大好きな lovely はもっと使える範囲が広いです。

It's a lovely day, isn't it.
Would you like a cup of tea? That would be lovely.（イギリスでよく使われます）
Japan is really lovely in the autumn.
She / He is a lovely person.

人に対して言うなら外見でもいいし、性格に対して使うこともできます。』

Anyway, as Anne said, you gave us a good chance to think of the usage of ‘かわいい’, so thank you.(Amo, thank you too for asking the question!)

Tsuneko, Anne, you are welcome:) It was an interesting discussion, wasn't it?

Maki, glad to hear that you finally got a copy of the English Journal, and thanks for reading my comment as well. Let's study with the magazine and the CD;-)

See you soon,

Tomo

•  Tomo
• 2009年12月 9日 10:41

Hi David、
Thank you for sharing your lovely story！I can picture you enjoying the newest deveces joyfully. You are not good at a computer any more,are you?
I can't catch up with the new electrical appliances.
I have no idea even if Ican use a Blu-ray Disk recorder.This topic sounds like Apple's advertisement. They may give you a lovely present!

Hi everyone,
Thank you for discussing the word "pretty" in amo's sentence and others. I learned a lot. I checked an old entry on May 30th,2006. I read another entries and comments　around. I rememberd my feeling when I had started to read the blog.

By for now,

May

•  May
• 2009年12月 9日 12:13

Hi David and Tomo
Thank you for full explanation.
詳しい解説をありがとうございました。
とても解り易く、勉強になりました。

Hi everyone
「pretty」の使い方は、こんなに深かったのですね。（本当のところ、Davidからのfeedbackを見ても、解ったような解らないようなにしたままで通り過ぎてしまっていました・・・）
このブログに参加させていただいていて、本当によかったと、改めて思いました。

Green

•  Green
• 2009年12月 9日 12:28

Hi Nao
Did you get 'J album'?
I couldn't・・・
I thought I could get without subscription.
My daughter called me　and said now
「 I couldn't get it」

Green

•  Green
• 2009年12月 9日 13:22

Hi Green

I also understand how to use 'pretty'.Thank you for asking.

By the way,I watched 'J-alubam' commercial!That's funny.Especially Koichi is so lovely:)He is my hero,but I didn't get a ticket..I'm so sad.

Nao

•  Ｎａｏ
• 2009年12月 9日 13:24

Hi Green

I haven't got J-album yet.As you said,I also thought that I get it without booking,but it seems that it's difficult to get it...oh no.I should book it.
J-albumはしっとりとした曲でまとめられていて聞かせる歌だそうです＾＾初回限定版を買うつもりでしたが買えないかもしれないですね。雲行きがあやしい。。

Nao

•  Ｎａｏ
• 2009年12月 9日 15:35

Hi Nao
You watched 'J -album' commercial ,didn't you?
They are cool,aren't they?
I think a few kinds of commercials are broadcasted.
My daghter made a reservatin 'J-album' at CD shop yesterday.
I would like to listen their songs as soon as possible!

I'm going to know if I get 関ジャニ∞　countdown concert tickets or not tonight.
I feel my heart beeting fast!
(KinKi Kids コンサート、モアチャンスやプレイガイド発売もこれからあると思いますよ~♪）

Green

•  Green
• 2009年12月10日 12:39

Hi Green

I hope you'll get the ticket!!I think the countdown concert is fantastic:)I'm going to watch it on TV.

Today I watched another J-album commercial.It was cool.I want to watch all commercial.

By the way your daughter have already booked the CD.That's a good idea.早く届くといいですね☆

Nao

•  Nao
• 2009年12月10日 15:07

It's me again.

Hi Green

I don't know that their tickets are sold in プレイガイド.I'll check it out.Thank you so much.

I'm not able to go to 大阪公演 because of my trip,so I want to go other stage.

Nao

•  Nao
• 2009年12月10日 16:50

Hi Nao
Don't give up!
I really hope you get the ticket!
'ROMES'　今日、最終回です！

Green

•  Green
• 2009年12月10日 18:15

Hi Nao
I knew the result.
I coudn't get countdown consert tickets・・・
Ｉ　only got New Year's Day concert tickets in Kyosera Dome.

Green

•  Green
• 2009年12月10日 18:48

Hi David,
Wow, You got AppleTV!

I remember the presentation that Steve Jobs was introducing the toy. I have seen the presentation via iTunes. I like his presentation because we can see something wonderful what he says.
At that time, we saw Apple tied up many movie studios in America.

In America, you can rent or buy HD movies via AppleTV. But actually, In Japan, the gadget can not tap its potential...

The day you could get the excellent function would come, I guess.

Yoshi-

•  Yoshi
• 2009年12月11日 00:38

Hi everyone

I did not get back until late last night. There was a Christmas party of my company after work.
I enjoyed the party except one thing. We had to perform at the party, and I really did not like to perform.
I am not sure but most of the Japanese people do not like that. For the people from other countries, it seems ok or I should say they love that. At least, other employees (non-Japanese) really enjoyed performing at the party.
I have had another busy week this week, so I am really happy that today is the last day of the weekdays.

By for now

•  amo
• 2009年12月11日 09:47

correction

I enjoyed the party except one thing.

→I enjoyed the party except the one thing.

•  amo
• 2009年12月11日 09:56

Hi amo,
What did you do at the party? Sorry, it's just out of curiosity. Singing a song at the party is the last thing I want to do. I love listening to other's songs, tough... I might be in a mood that I want to hide somewhere, behind the wall, under the table!...haha!
Anyway, when you access this blog next time, you are sure to have a relaxing time!

Anne

•  Anne
• 2009年12月11日 10:07

it's me again..
訂正；tough→though...

I'm going out tonight to meet my ex-coworkers, but I don't need to do any performance... We are just having a nice talk and dishes.

Anne

•  Anne
• 2009年12月11日 10:16

Hi David and everyone,

I’ve got the English Journal and immediately opened to the page of both David and Tomo and listened to the CD. Now I know your full name in Kanji. That’s nice! As for the CD, I recognized the difference of the way of speaking; Johnny Depp sometimes stopped and sounded like he was thinking or choosing what he would say with a bit hesitating voice. David, you really spoke fast and cheerfully in a humorous way without hesitation even though you sounded a bit gurgling(ちょっと痰がからんでるような). No comment for the last interviewee now. I haven’t confirmed each scripts yet but I felt(笑) you talked very nice things for us, language learners and among them you talked about your “yasai-deshita vs yasukatta-desu” mistake again that reminded me of the real truth(真相). If I remember correctly, your teacher, Fusae spoke to you “デヴィッドさん、新しいズボンを買いましたね”, actually she seemed to have chosen the phrase from the lesson. You did a 2-week strike since you said we had laughed (mentioned in the book).
Now, I’m quite sure we laughed not because of your mistake but because of your humorous tone and atmosphere. I have another reason why I think so; Japanese learners often make such small mistakes that never make us laugh in class. Anyway, we should have noticed you were a kind of sensitive. It’s very important not to hurt other’s feelings. I also like what you said; ALC didn’t want to hurt J. Depp’s feeling.

Hi May,

I agree with you. You said this topic sounded like Apple’s advertisement and they might give David a lovely present. I know another man on this blog who loves Mac very much. I’m looking forward to his comment.

Hi Tomo,

Your Japanese explanation is amazing! Yes, it was interesting indeed.

tsuneko

•  tsuneko
• 2009年12月11日 10:42

Hi Anne,

Have a lot fun with your ex co-workers tonight!

•  tsuneko
• 2009年12月11日 10:45

Hi Green

It's a shame that you couldn't get the ticket.I think the concert is the most popular of all concerts of ジャニーズ,and the new year's concert is also popular.You got it,didn't you?Lucky you!

I couldn't watch 'ROMES' because of my job.Oh no..
Did you watch it?How was it?

Nao

•  Nao
• 2009年12月11日 11:35

Hi amo

You had a Christmas party last night.Sounds good,but I see your feeling because I don't like to perform.Good work last night.Please relax this weekend.

Hi Anne

I want to wish you happy night:)

Hi tsuneko

You've got EJ.I haven't got it yet,so I wanted to know the content.I know it a little thanks of you.

Nao

•  Ｎａｏ
• 2009年12月11日 11:55

Hi David and everyone,

May,
＜This topic sounds like Apple's advertisement. They may give you a lovely present!
I think so, too!

Green, you are welcome. It was good study for me as well.

Nao, can I comment on just one thing you said? About the expression ‘～のおかげで’, it's 'thanks TO'. Sorry, if it was just a typo!

Yoshi, nice to hear from you again. Actually, David showed us a speech made by Steve Jobs to a group of graduating university students before. In the speech, Steve Jobs were talking about "connecting the dots". It was quite difficult for me to read the article at that time, but I thought his experiences were amazing.

Amo, I'm also interested in what you did at the party. I don't like to speak or sing in front of a lot of people, but I like singing in karaoke with my friends;-)

Anne, have a great time with your ex-coworkers tonight!

Tsuneko, thank you for reading the article. My online name is from one of my real nick names. I enjoyed reading your comments about the interviews. Yes, David are saying very nice things for us in the interview, including his "yasui/yasai" mistake. I'm sure his experiences encourage and motivate language learners. Actually, I'm writing this as I'm listening to the CD;-)

For those of you who don't understand what Tsuneko is talking about,
Tsuneko was one of the teachers in the elevator when David made the "yasui/yasai" mistake.

My friend and her son and daughter are coming to my house this afternoon, so I'm going to bake a cake for them.

See you soon,

PS David, I'm looking forward to reading your new entry!

•  Tomo
• 2009年12月11日 14:10

Hi Tomo

Thank you for your correction.I learned 'thanks TO' thanks to Tomo.

Nao

•  Nao
• 2009年12月11日 15:25

Hi Nao & Tomo,

Thanks to both of you, I also learned the right expression. I used to use "thank to" when I meant "～のおかげで", but it is "thankS to".

Tomo and everyone,

Thank you for additional information about me but I always get embarrased to hear him saying that. 生徒が一生懸命話して、間違えたとき、笑ってしまうのは酷いでしょ。どんなに可笑しい間違いでも、傷つけるような笑い方はしないから、みんな。そんなことしたら、話さなくなっちゃう。だから、シンガポールのあの学校の日本語課チームの名誉のためにも、笑ったのは間違いについてではなく、デビッドの醸し出す楽しい雰囲気と、見栄えのするズボンが（とても）安かったと言った意外性にあった筈と、主張したいなあ～。それに、日本語学習者が形容詞を二重にも三重にも間違えるのは本当に日常茶飯事で,笑うほどの間違いではないのです。作文で「私は脂肪です。」(I'm fat.)とか空港から「今届きました。」(I've just arrived.)とかクリスマス・プレゼントを後ろに隠して「目、つぶして～。」とか、メールで「先生が風邪を引いたと聞いて驚愕（!）しました。」とか、そんな間違いに比べたら、本当に小さなよくある間違いなのです。Fusae, Hisae, Akiko, another Akiko, Megumi, Mari, and Kiyoshi, if you read this comment, please help me.(笑)　

tsuneko

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